Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "average person" is guilty of voting the communist government. Corruption is just the normal result of communism/socialism.
As two notable countries of significant interest to HN readers recently proved, frustrated voters are easily led astray by populist demagogues with big promises and low tolerances for truth-telling.
Venezuela’s Behind on Its Debt and Facing Two Huge Bond Payments
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "average person" is guilty of voting the communist government. Corruption is just the normal result of communism/socialism.
As two notable countries of significant interest to HN readers recently proved, frustrated voters are easily led astray by populist demagogues with big promises and low tolerances for truth-telling.
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#23 On Friday, the government-run oil giant PDVSA owes $985 million.
Maybe an ignorant question... who do they owe... who own's these bonds?Re: Venezuela’s Behind on Its Debt and Facing Two Huge Bond Payments
#24If you run sovereign debt in a currency you don't control, you become a colony, not a country. Venezuela private firms should all be run through administration to wipe out the creditors and re-floated with Bolivar investment.
They are already too oil export heavy. Without proper inputs the outputs will be inferior, unexportable and inefficient.
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#25If you run sovereign debt in a currency you don't control, you become a colony, not a country. Venezuela private firms should all be run through administration to wipe out the creditors and re-floated with Bolivar investment.
Nobody wants BSF. Plus the government does shenanigans with the exchange rate, with the official exchange rate having no relationship to reality. If you refloat debt in a different valueless currency that you control the exchange rate on, you're de facto defaulting - nobody wants your currency. They want hard currency. Re: currency you don't control, do you consider Ecuador a colony? They have debt in the sucre, whic…
You can make a powerful case that they are.
A country that doesn't control its money doesn't control its economic policy. Is there anything more important than the economy for a country?
A fair economic area need, first, a monetary and fiscal common policy, and, second, a policy choose in the interest of all the citizens in the area.
The Euroarea only have a monetary common policy and I'm not the only one that think that is not run in the interest of all the Europeans.
I can't talk about Ecuador, but historically, fixed exchange rates, as any fixed structure don't survive even small "earthquakes". It's even worse if it's not an fixed exchange rate, but a foreign currency. In the case of Ecuador, you can be sure that, at some point in the future, the economic policy run from Washington will be the opposite of what the country needs.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody wants BSF. Plus the government does shenanigans with the exchange rate, with the official exchange rate having no relationship to reality. If you refloat debt in a different valueless currency that you control the exchange rate on, you're de facto defaulting - nobody wants your currency. They want hard currency. Re: currency you don't control, do you consider Ecuador a colony? They have debt in the sucre, whic…
You should ask some Greeks if they feel they are in a colony like position with respect to Brussels/Germany. Controlling your own money is a key factor to maintaining sovereignty. Goldbugs take this to a level where they desire personal sovereignty and thus a money not controlled by the government (gold or silver).
US can take loan in dollars because everyone has dollars to park, which is because everyone else has dollars too.
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#27On August 25, 2017, US President Donald Trump issued an executive order limiting the government of Venezuela's ability to access certain types of international financing. This would certainly curtail the governments ability to ease the pressure of bond payments. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/25/exec... when you cant sell assets, you cant repay a bond. PDVSA, the nationalized oil asset of the st…
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#28On August 25, 2017, US President Donald Trump issued an executive order limiting the government of Venezuela's ability to access certain types of international financing. This would certainly curtail the governments ability to ease the pressure of bond payments. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/25/exec... when you cant sell assets, you cant repay a bond. PDVSA, the nationalized oil asset of the st…
https://elhem.co/2017/07/27/nicolas-maduro-accused-of-crimes...
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#29The paradox of Venezuela is a populist government that beasts its chest about foreign imperialism starving its citizens to make bond payments to foreigners. We're beyond the point where a sane democracy would have defaulted. The only conclusion I can come to involves cronies of the administration holding substantial amounts of the debt. The payments aren't on interest and principal, but for patronage.
They need to keep the capital flowing in order to fund the police/military that prop up the authoritarian regime.
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#30Scary times ahead for Venezuela. It's too bad it will be the average person paying the price for the corrupt few.