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Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by thefalcon »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #109
PeanutNore wrote: post #71

As a former active user on Facebook, this sort of change may succeed in bringing people like me back to the site. The minimal effort required in hitting that "share" button means that every page that organically reached my friends would end up polluting my news feed as well with crap that I wasn't interested in and got in the way of what I had originally joined FB for. If my friends aren't seeing these posts, they wo…

Ads are still in the feed, only smb's that don't pay ads won't

Exactly. Your friends will still see share just as many ads, except they'll be even more obnoxiously click-baity because the ads will be that much more desperate to make ROI.

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by mfoy_ »

bad_user wrote: post #12

The best part about Twitter is the simple timeline. Twitter doesn’t care about what the account represents, so all accounts have the same priority. Yes, Twitter has started to mess with its timeline, but that’s besides the point. Facebook’s noise problem is one that they themselves created. Countless of times I found myself subscribed to some page only because I liked one of their posts. Which is bullshit, because in…

Another fun "like" side effect is when Facebook rebroadcasts likes. This can be kinda funny / morbid when someone who has passed away (but has not had their Facebook profile memorialized) "likes" some random brand...

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by qznc »

Mikushi wrote: post #55
yosito wrote: post #17

This is wishful thinking, but maybe this move will push content creators back to providing RSS feeds so their audience can follow them without needing to use Facebook.

More than wishful thinking, and no offence, but it's simply disconnected with reality. RSS is not dead, it was never alive to begin with.

It's the other way round for me. I read feeds but no Facebook. Works fine. Which content producers are missing?

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by zeeveener »

kevstev wrote: post #89
PeanutNore wrote: post #71

As a former active user on Facebook, this sort of change may succeed in bringing people like me back to the site. The minimal effort required in hitting that "share" button means that every page that organically reached my friends would end up polluting my news feed as well with crap that I wasn't interested in and got in the way of what I had originally joined FB for. If my friends aren't seeing these posts, they wo…

Agreed here. I feel like I am constantly fighting to filter out all this "content" from external sites. I feel like I can't even see the stuff I joined FB for- to see pictures/updates to see what my friends are up to. Instagram is much better for this these days, the signal/noise ratio is getting so low on FB that I find myself going on just out of habit, not because of the information I get from there. It has shades…

Unless they’ve recently changed how it works the URL does actually affect the Top Stories vs Most Recent.^1

I’ve had the same bookmark for a couple years now which always defaults to Most Recent.

[1] https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by bobbinsbob »

ameister14 wrote: post #64
bobbinsbob wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"Facebook is like a game where the difficulty rises after you've had a taste of success. And by difficulty I mean you have to pay to reach your previously levels of success" Your analogy would sound better, and imo, reflect reality more if you swapped out 'game' for 'drug'. That is to say, Facebook is like a drug (like heroin), the more you use it the more you have to pay to get the same level of high. Don't become…

Except that doesn't work as an analogy because the end-users are not the ones paying.

I wasn't alluding to cost as in money, though I do agree with others here that you're paying one way or another.

In relation to Facebook user I was alluding to addiction and the way you pay for that addiction.

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by jlgaddis »

cousin_it wrote: post #24
smcl wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "News Feed" => "Explore Feed" thing reminds me of this image, someone on Twitter created it when Twitter starting muddling around with their feed: http://zdnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2017/03/31/05706b1f-125b-...

That image is by Jon Bois who went on to create 17776 https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football which is amazing.

Holy crap, I just spent I don't know how much time reading this and, you're right... that truly is amazing. Thank you!

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by mrguyorama »

prsimp wrote: post #101
mrguyorama wrote: post #96

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I hate that frog analogy. People always use it as shorthand for "small changes over time go unnoticed" but in the actual experiment, the frogs were basically lobotomized. So how are we lobotomized? One sort of answer would be how people are convinced that their data is not important. They are convinced of this while Google and Facebook mine it to no end and the NSA stores pretty much everything you do in Utah. So may…

> One sort of answer would be how people are convinced that their data is not important. When I'm wandering through my yard watering plants, I like to imagine a world where our personal data, or more precisely access to it, is treated more like mineral rights today. Companies would be required to pay a small micro-payment royalty anytime your data was used to make them money, and you would be able to transfer/split t…

We do not live in a "your data is the price of admission" world. We live in a "your data is extra gravy we monetize for free because in small quantities it is useless to you but in aggregate it has value so we will extract that value even if you've already paid for the product and legally own it"

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by ameister14 »

vkou wrote: post #91
ameister14 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that doesn't work as an analogy because the end-users are not the ones paying.

It does work as an analogy, because the difference between heroin, and a useful product is that heroin doesn't make your life better. Becoming addicted to heroin means that not using it makes your life worse then using it, even if the net value add is negative. I often feel the same way about Facebook. I stay on because the cost of disconnecting is too high, not because its particular implementation of 'A social netw…

Sure, but thats not the only reason why the analogy doesn't work. The heroin analogy is B2C. The Facebook discussion is B2B.

Re: Biggest drop in Facebook organic reach we have seen

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Post by ameister14 »

bobbinsbob wrote: post #115
ameister14 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that doesn't work as an analogy because the end-users are not the ones paying.

I wasn't alluding to cost as in money, though I do agree with others here that you're paying one way or another. In relation to Facebook user I was alluding to addiction and the way you pay for that addiction.

Yes, but the discussion is about service providers using Facebook's platform, not Facebook's end users.
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