Seems a touch hyperbolic no? 4700 jobs does not sound like a “hammering”.
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Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring
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#12I don't want to live in California, but it seems like a lot of the recruiting and employment matchmaking systems these days focus almost entirely on the SF Bay area.
Added: I think the hype might have pumped the job market too full, and net outflows are the only way for the system to concentrate more desirable candidates, with employee compensation being the signal.
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#13Austin resident here. My wife and I have been talking to renovators and have heard several times that projects simply take longer these days because many workers now must live farther out from the city core than they used to. I wouldn't be surprised the same thing happens here -- to a lesser degree perhaps, as we have more geographical space to expand into -- with avg commute time being the primary constraint on grow…
Yeah. It's not so much about distance, it's about time. Better infrastructure for moving people in and out of the city enables a larger city, and a more populated one.
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#14Montana, a land of National parks, natural beauty, fast internet, and a low cost of living has a number of high tech jobs open. Full disclosure, I own an internet company here and want more tech savvy people in the area ;)
Social Finanace (SoFi) | Helena, MT
Oracle | Bozeman, MT
OnXMaps | Missoula, MT
Zaneray Group | Whitefish, MT
Submittable | Missoula, MT
Applied Materials | Kalispell, MT
Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring
#15I'm quite familiar with the bay area.
Lack of housing and traffic are familiar complaints, but it bears repeating. I remember when there was never any traffic on 280, now it's a parking lot during rush hour.
If you're just starting out in your career, it's simultaneously the best and worst place to work. Best in that there's a lot of opportunity and you're kinda bathed in the tech ecosystem, worst in that you'll probably be paying 40k (after taxes) for a one bedroom apartment in the city, or stuck commuting for an hour easy way.
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#16Most of the bay area employees are divided into 3 categories from anecdotal experience: young rockstars that are willing to live in relative squalor for a chance to prove themselves,
vested and moneyed elites (CEO's, presidents, VC funded overlords) who are so out of touch with the average employee its best they not show up to the office that frequently,
and H1B visa recipients that endure the soul-crushing San Jose or beyond commute every day because their job represents something more than just the sum of their skills, its a ticket to citizenship and a better life for their family.
Ive turned down more bay jobs than I can count because at some age you begin to accept the fact that SFBay isnt that great. Rising levels of increasingly aggressive homeless, the inability to afford any housing, and the price of food and public transportation in general are just a few factors that led me to say no.
Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring
#17Montana, a land of National parks, natural beauty, fast internet, and a low cost of living has a number of high tech jobs open. Full disclosure, I own an internet company here and want more tech savvy people in the area ;) Social Finanace (SoFi) | Helena, MT Oracle | Bozeman, MT OnXMaps | Missoula, MT Zaneray Group | Whitefish, MT Submittable | Missoula, MT Applied Materials | Kalispell, MT
Oh, and if the outdoors aren't your thing, we have a different kind of trail map as well: http://montanabrewers.org/trail-map/
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#18I don't want to live in California, but it seems like a lot of the recruiting and employment matchmaking systems these days focus almost entirely on the SF Bay area. Added: I think the hype might have pumped the job market too full, and net outflows are the only way for the system to concentrate more desirable candidates, with employee compensation being the signal.
I'm thinking it might be worthwhile to engineer a scalable, high-traffic city(maybe city's the wrong word, it could be sprawling and fast, instead of dense and slow) from the ground up, somewhere there isn't one already. You don't need to build the transit immediately, you just need to have the restraint to reserve the space for a time when you will want it. Other useful constraints aside from transit reservations, might include: setting aesthetic standards (line of sight corridors[through zoned height restrictions] to natural beauty, stylistic restrictions, above-ground pedestrian accommodation planning), extensive mixed-use zoning in the sprawl, multiple downtowns (hierarchy of pedestrian/two-lane/light rail accessibility > main street/express light rail > freeway/full sized rail arranged in superblocks).
Added: Three-dimensional land parcels would solve a lot of the problems with properly valuing natural beauty, direct sunlight, and underground access.
Added: Environmental (noise[aggregate peak SPL, loudness], ground vibration[aggregate peak amplitude], air pollution[aggregate peak particulates, ozone, maybe fuel fumes, maybe heat], ground pollution, EMR [including radio and light]) sensor networks could be used to make it simpler to uphold agreements and ordinances, or litigate environmental property devaluation or damage (reduction in air quality, disturbance of quiet, excessive night time light, ground shaking). You could also include on-board detectors for things like gunshots, car crashes, or desperate cries for help, to aide emergency services. Data like these could be made completely public so that public offices don't need to waste their time determining access.
Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring
#19We gained 50k jobs in the last year, this is a loss for september of which happens every year as temps etc are usually hired again in Nov.
> Over the 12 months that ended in September, the Bay Area added 50,400 jobs, a 1.3 percent increase in total payroll jobs during the one-year period.
The interesting part is the percentage slow down over the year, which is what requires more thought than headlines about "hammered job losses" that included area-wide growth.
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#20The # of jobs rose by ~25% between Feb 2010 and September 2017. How does that make September the "worst month for employment locally since February 2010" ?
The worst month of employment growth, meaning, growth is slowing down. Not hiring enough + layoffs.