Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
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Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
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Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#2This post would be improved by discussing that their [threat model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model) is so different than Google's that it regards some of Google's business practices as threats. And that, in turn, there are threats that Google treats as much bigger threats, bringing their own world-class security team to.
Calling this fundamental difference in approach "more secure" manipulates the less-informed instead of educating and almost eliminates the chance of a worthwhile conversation about tradeoffs and values that could be very flattering to ProtonMail.
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#3Very nice. One question though: how can we check if what they say is true? Is their client open-source?
Also, would it be possible that if I open an email on an Android device, that Google still could read the email?
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#4I'm a paying user, and have to say, I think I may want to give up this extra security for Google's world class spam filtering.
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#5zero knowledge encryption means that there's no search functionality right?
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#6I'm a paying user, and have to say, I think I may want to give up this extra security for Google's world class spam filtering.
Also their search engine doesn't include attachments
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#7Very nice. One question though: how can we check if what they say is true? Is their client open-source? Also, would it be possible that if I open an email on an Android device, that Google still could read the email?
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#8This post would be improved by discussing that their [threat model]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model ) is so different than Google's that it regards some of Google's business practices as threats. And that, in turn, there are threats that Google treats as much bigger threats, bringing their own world-class security team to. Calling this fundamental difference in approach "more secure" manipulates the less-…
That's a fair criticism. I don't think the Gmail glossy brochure mentions its threat model either.
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#9Hows the spam filter? I fell in love with the idea of switching to other services before on their marketing copy but I'm back in Gmail. It all rests on how good the spam filtering is by default not after I've received x good and y bad emails.
Unfortunately in this case it sounds like there might be a tradeoff between securing my internet postcards[1] and training spam filters.
[1] and that's all they are really, postcards. We've known that for decades, you can't patch envelopes over emails at this point.
Re: Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
#10I'm a paying user, and have to say, I think I may want to give up this extra security for Google's world class spam filtering.
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