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Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by adventurer »

rdtsc wrote: post #42

I look at it from another end - I feel there is a sort of an app fatigue. Maybe it is jut me. I used to be excited about Uber-like things, note taking apps, DropBox, coupon sites, review sites. Installed some of them, used them, then kind of stopped. Someone at work would say "you should try this new thing, totally cool" and I'd be inclined to do it, but now would pass it probably. Extrapolating scientifically from t…

I've almost given up on the Play Store. It's overblown with all sorts of useless garbage. Want an alarm clock app? There are hundreds, if not thousands. I couldn't even find what I was looking for. Paid apps., Ads, in-app. purchases. It's an alarm clock for heaven's sake.

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by reitanqild »

krtkush wrote: post #87
thinkloop wrote: post #74

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I prefer figuring out how to incorporate the externalities instead of banning/quitting things. Meat at twice the price would probably solve the problem.

My bet is on lab produced meat.

FWIW earlier this year I ate something soy based that felt and tasted like pork.

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by dyarosla »

rpmcmurphy wrote: post #76
kloncks wrote: post #53

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Why do you not think the world needs SMBs over larger corporations with more resources? Are there any economic study or more academic writings on this topic. I'd be curious.

If you take solar arrays as an example, someone needs to do the build out. That someone is likely to be a local or regional company that hires local workers. Planning and construction accounts for a significant fraction of project costs as materials costs have plummeted, so this is money that ends up being recirculated in the local economy. Of course there will be large companies in the mix, but there won't be a netw…

That doesn't make much sense. A good comparison would be to look at big Telecom. A handful of large companies both build out the infrastructure and then sell their services to the public. Why would building energy infrastructure be any different?

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by strin »

Most industries tend to consolidate over time with a few big players. For technology it's particularly true given the winner takes all phenomenon. Unless there is a fundamental new technology / hardware platform, there's little chance small startups can go into existing ones.

However, I am more interested in seeing technology disrupting old heavy industries. Please go outside the silicon valley and there are plenty of those.

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by samstave »

dleslie wrote: post #105
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Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by gpsx »

There definitely is a change in Silicon Valley from before. I don't think it is a lack of things to be created by any means. The difference I see is that before the thing to do was create startup. Now everyone wants to go work for Google, Apple, Facebook or another large company. And why not, you can get a huge salary there without the risk and hard work of a startup. With so many more of the smart people are going to big companies rather than trying to make something on there own, I definitely expect less innovation here in the US, for now at least.

On the positive side, there are some things a big company can do that a small company can't. This may contribute to why so many people are going to work at big companies, and we may see some good results.

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by dyarosla »

callalex wrote: post #66
rdtsc wrote: post #42

I look at it from another end - I feel there is a sort of an app fatigue. Maybe it is jut me. I used to be excited about Uber-like things, note taking apps, DropBox, coupon sites, review sites. Installed some of them, used them, then kind of stopped. Someone at work would say "you should try this new thing, totally cool" and I'd be inclined to do it, but now would pass it probably. Extrapolating scientifically from t…

Apps have also gotten much worse than in their heyday. They are all built in whatever the latest cross platform iframe-with-makeup framework which always feels clunky, and they all have to start out as free to get their foot in the door and then make it their life’s purpose to annoy you repeatedly until you cave and give them $.99 every month. The hardware space is now much more diverse so a developer doesn’t have th…

Using phrases like 'all built with', 'all have to start out as free', and so on, is fairly inaccurate. There are plenty of apps that run native, cost money upfront, and are still viable, profitable businesses.

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by pjmlp »

platz wrote: post #39
Eridrus wrote: post #35

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> e.g. the tech for AlphaGo was made by a startup. Making the next AlphaGo is far less accessible than making the next AirBnB. The gold rush where we're basically sticking a web/mobile app on a business and off to the races is ending.

Time to sell shovels

After the first year in whatever cycle it is always about shovels.

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by dyarosla »

api wrote: post #110
rdtsc wrote: post #42

I look at it from another end - I feel there is a sort of an app fatigue. Maybe it is jut me. I used to be excited about Uber-like things, note taking apps, DropBox, coupon sites, review sites. Installed some of them, used them, then kind of stopped. Someone at work would say "you should try this new thing, totally cool" and I'd be inclined to do it, but now would pass it probably. Extrapolating scientifically from t…

Mobile devices are very constrained. The OSes are locked down, the screens are small, high CPU apps are out, and input is slow and cumbersome. After trying a lot of apps I have found that a smart phone has only a few functions: 1. Talking and texting. 2. Taking pictures and video. 3. Maps and directions. 4. Music, movies, ebooks. 5. Brief interactions with services like Uber, Lyft, AirBnB, Los Angeles metro, etc. 6.…

You forgot the biggest smartphone market:

7. Games

Re: After the end of the startup era

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Post by taysic »

EGreg wrote: post #79
thinkloop wrote: post #74

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I prefer figuring out how to incorporate the externalities instead of banning/quitting things. Meat at twice the price would probably solve the problem.

Yeah good luck achieving that using pure capitalism. Unless you liberate all the farm animals by buying them out. You need regulations to prevent factory farming!

We can start by removing subsidies.

Amount US taxpayers spend yearly to subsidize meat and dairy : $38 billion

To subsidize fruits and vegetables : $17 million

US retail price of a pound of chicken in 1935 (adjusted for inflation) : $5.07

In 2011 : $1.34

Pounds of chicken eaten annually per American in 1935 : 9

In 2011 : 56

Revenue collected by US fishing industry per pound of fish caught : $0.59

Portion of this figure funded by taxpayers as subsidies : $0.28

https://meatonomics.com/2013/08/22/meatonomics-index/

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