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> or maybe 20 seconds in the microwave I'm curious to know the circumstances if you know what a skin burn from 20 seconds in a microwave looks like.
Maybe from cooking meat?
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Consider multiple transmitters operating at the same time, in the same room. Even if no signal transmitter is dumping high output into that part of the spectrum, isn’t bandwidth saturation one of the reasons for poor reception and lower bars? Would that not provide bonuses to absorbed effective wattage? There’s probably some constructive interference producing fortuitous signals, no?
When it comes to interference with DNA, it is wavelength not wattage that is important.
If non-ionizing low temperature radiation can be harmful to humans, does that mean we can get health issues just from standing near another human body which emits EM radiation at a far higher frequency and energy density?
In this case, the RF wouldn't be mutagenic, but it would increase the likelihood of cancer.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167488915...
Lets unpack this: 1) there is and has been lots of modelling to work out if the frequency bands are viable for business.
2) Where on the exponential curve is it? double? Quadruple? don't use terms that one clearly doesn't understand.
3) "Widely believed" is not a good source. Fucking talk to the scientists that are doing the moedelling. Do you honestly think that the entire international mobile industry is going to just guess as to how many Basestations are needed?
4) "more because of the limited distance the signals can travel" Do you know what this means? propogation is limited, which means that exposure is more than likley to be less. Its simple physics that propagation on the 4-6Ghz bands is nowhere near as much as 700Mhz. (https://gsacom.com/5g-spectrum-bands/)
5) once again, if range is limited, so is exposure.
Once again a lack of basic science, combined with clickbate has continued to undermine valid criticism and replace it with bone headed stupidity.
If you are worried about 5G, why the fuck do you use Wifi? wifi is both 2.4 ghz, and 5 ghz.
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>radium Not well understood physics, then it was understood and quickly recognized as dangerous. Nothing was done because of nonexistent regulations and corporate money. >leaded petrol Recognized as dangerous to begin with ("December 1922, the US Surgeon General wrote to GM regarding growing concerns that environmental lead would become a serious menace to public health."), huge negative effects in workers noticed al…
Radium is a great example of society blindly placing trust in technology and corporations as these ads from the 1910's show... - It will cure your hayfever! https://i.imgur.com/yXpONhN.png - Wear a radium pad for great health! https://i.imgur.com/NlnzYOx.jpg - Drink Radium water for better health! https://i.imgur.com/d1uIUGO.jpg Story is explained here https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/03/how-we-re... .…
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>radium Not well understood physics, then it was understood and quickly recognized as dangerous. Nothing was done because of nonexistent regulations and corporate money. >leaded petrol Recognized as dangerous to begin with ("December 1922, the US Surgeon General wrote to GM regarding growing concerns that environmental lead would become a serious menace to public health."), huge negative effects in workers noticed al…
Radium is a great example of society blindly placing trust in technology and corporations as these ads from the 1910's show... - It will cure your hayfever! https://i.imgur.com/yXpONhN.png - Wear a radium pad for great health! https://i.imgur.com/NlnzYOx.jpg - Drink Radium water for better health! https://i.imgur.com/d1uIUGO.jpg Story is explained here https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/03/how-we-re... .…
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Microwaves aren’t RF. The frequency has a very specific interaction with water.
> Microwaves aren’t RF. Yes they are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_transmission > The frequency has a very specific interaction with water. No it doesn't: http://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2014/10/15/why-are-the-microwave...
Hmmm. It depends on the power, frequencies and distance to tissue. I remember a coworker at a GPS mfgr accidentially turned on a 440 MHz radio in high-power (25W) mode with only a whip antenna and received a nasty radio burn when he pointlessly/accidentally put his hand around it. That radio burn looked similar to a sunburn or maybe 20 seconds in the microwave. Increased risk of cancer, for sure. A fraction of a Watt…
Yeah no. Burning yourself on a hot stove does not increase your risk of cancer and that's the same thing which happened to your coworker.
One such result: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11957286
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> Burns are very frequent. Skin cancer on burns scars are one of the known complications....
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Maybe from cooking meat?
People actually cook things in microwaves? As in - they go from raw product to a cooked product? I've only ever used and only ever saw microwaves bring used for warming up meals, never for actual cooking.
Absolutely you can "cook" things in microwaves, people do it all the time.
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Radium is a great example of society blindly placing trust in technology and corporations as these ads from the 1910's show... - It will cure your hayfever! https://i.imgur.com/yXpONhN.png - Wear a radium pad for great health! https://i.imgur.com/NlnzYOx.jpg - Drink Radium water for better health! https://i.imgur.com/d1uIUGO.jpg Story is explained here https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/03/how-we-re... .…
Radium wasn't used for over a century all over the entire planet and exposed to most of the entire population of the world their entire lives. It's literally the worst comparison to non-ionizing radiation possible. I think if there were significant issues with non-ionizing radiation, we would have a large sample size by now since almost everyone is exposed to it their entire life. Also, what is significant about your…
My point was simply about the process by which society blindly adopts a new technology without fully understanding the consequences and how that might have parallels today.