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Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by nopzor »

danellis wrote: post #130
oulipo wrote: post #80

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Yes, but their business model is still to get and sell your data to advertiser We do a 100% on-device platform, where your data never leaves the platform, and we want to power the next generation of private-by-design smart IoT devices

Sigh How many times do we have to do this? Google isn't selling your data to advertisers.

How many times do we have to do what?

Google is absolutely selling your data to advertisers.

If you mean they won't sell it to them in raw form I guess you're technically correct, and I'd of course agree with you, but I don't think this is the parent posters point.

They aren't being altruistic by not doing this; if they did they wouldn't be able to monetize it anymore.

Am I misunderstanding something here or are you just being pedantic?

It's the same reason I'm an iPhone user. I'd rather deal with a company whose business model is to sell me overpriced hardware rather than to "sell my data to advertisers"

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by LrnByTeach »

JshWright wrote: post #41
Animats wrote: post #38

This thing seems to be mostly an interface for other home automation devices. In the demo, it doesn't directly control anything important. It's not like there are motor control relays connected to the Raspberry Pi's GPIO ports. A big question is how this fails. It needs to fail into some safe condition. Raspberry Pi machines have a full Linux and no stall timer, so they can end up crashed or hung. If this thing turns…

Home Assistant supports sensors and switches using GPIO pins (if you're running on a Pi, obviously) https://home-assistant.io/components/rpi_gpio/ Home Assistant is indeed an "aggregator" for a lot of different home automation devices. Personally, I find it very useful to have my Nest, my ZWave devices, various ESP8266 "things" (garage door controller, temp/humidity sensors, my doorbell, etc), along with my Chromecas…

Wonderful , this summarized the capabilities of this HAss

> A Pi is totally optional, BTW. You can run HA on pretty much anything that runs Python3.

> Home Assistant supports sensors and switches using GPIO pins (if you're running on a Pi, obviously)

> Home Assistant is indeed an "aggregator" for a lot of different home automation devices.

> Having all that information in one place means those various components can be controlled intelligently, based on all the available information, rather than just the small island each of them would be on their own.

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by agentdrtran »

lttlrck wrote: post #140
oh_sigh wrote: post #111

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Can you have them turn on 30 mins before sunset?

You can get an astronomical light switch that replaces the manual light switch that can do that and more based around actual sunrise/sunset time for $30 - it’s a little pricey but they just work.

All of my Zigbee stuff 'just works' as well and is under $30/bulb for basic lights.

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by a254613e »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #128
vonseel wrote: post #118

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Built into the Hue app, but I bet it was fun to code :)

Some basic bash scripting and a cron job. Can I control a Hue light bulb with some basic bash scripting and a cron job? Can I do it without calling out to some Internet based web service?

Yes.

    curl --request PUT --data '{"on":true}' http:///api//lights//state
https://developers.meethue.com/documentation/getting-started

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by hutzlibu »

foepys wrote: post #138
hutzlibu wrote: post #71

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.. but that is new slang, and originates in "hassle" afaik. And I would rather say, it is just used (and written) as the original english word.

It could very well be exactly the other way around. Even my grandparents knew this word and taught it to my parents. It's absolutely not new.

Interesting, I never heard of it and will ask mine. Which area are you from? (maybe it is dialect?)

Anyway, I suppose most teens who use today, got the word from gangsta rap and their "street hassle" ..

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

oh_sigh wrote: post #111
semi-extrinsic wrote: post #100

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My $8 "dumb" LED outdoor bulbs have sunrise/sunset sensors built in...

Can you have them turn on 30 mins before sunset?

There is usually a screw to adjust at what light level they turn on. So I suppose you could hit the 30 min. mark with some trial and error. But why would you?

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by oulipo »

bedros wrote: post #121
oulipo wrote: post #14

I'm a co-founder of Snips https://snips.ai , we are building a 100% on-device Voice AI platform which protects your privacy as it does not rely on sending voice on servers like Google and Apple do You can use the platform for free (we will also open-source over time), it can run on Raspberry 3 and we added an integration with the amazing Home Assistant: https://home-assistant.io/components/snips

thank you for your work on this, I was thinking last week of nice to have assistant like echo or google, but I don't trust either company

Thank you :)

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by mike-cardwell »

a254613e wrote: post #144
mike-cardwell wrote: post #128

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Some basic bash scripting and a cron job. Can I control a Hue light bulb with some basic bash scripting and a cron job? Can I do it without calling out to some Internet based web service?

Yes. curl --request PUT --data '{"on":true}' http:// /api/ /lights/ /state https://developers.meethue.com/documentation/getting-started

That's good. Does it generate any Internet traffic it all, or is it entirely local?

One thing I noticed from your command: No authentication. Looks like any software on any device on the LAN can control the light. Is that really true?

Re: Home Assistant is an open-source home automation platform running on Python 3

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Post by alkonaut »

dbm5 wrote: post #90
cardmagic wrote: post #84

Is anyone else here completely confused at how much hype there is around automated light management systems? I don’t get it. Is it really that hard to turn on and off lights manually that people really need all this stuff? What am I not getting?

While I understand your skepticism, there are a few use cases for which I use HA which would be either painful manually, or would require alternate devices such as timers/etc: 1 - outside lights - various lights which light our home's pathway or areas we prefer to have lit at night come on automatically at sundown and turn off at sun-up. 2 - scenes; with HA, we can click one button - a switch with scene control in ou…

Tried to get a single outside light automated through a z-wave gaget hidden behind the switch. Endless hours later the thing is still either working intermittently or not at all. Even with the nodes in the network right next to each other the network is fragile as hell. I just can't believe how expensive z-wave things can be so much worse than the old 433mhz things that have been around for ages.

I finally gave up and now it's just on (or off) 24/7...

I'm considering giving it another try but I'm not to keen on investing in another tech only to see it fail as miserably as first gen z-wave

Is there no good standard that works over electric lines? Seems it could be so much more reliable and cheap. And every single device already has the wires.

Powerline Ethernet is sketchy with some wiring configurations but you'd think that these minimal bandwidths could be handled in nearly all wiring setups.

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