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Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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While I find this article sad, it's ultimately inevitable as far as I see it. I read a lot, and I enjoy collecting books, but I ceased buying physical books a long time ago. I've started backfilling my ebook collection based on my old physical collections. At some point, I will be able to find digital replacements for 99% of my physical book collections and I will eventually find a decent way to digitize the rest. Ul…

Contrarily, I buy physical books and have stopped using my kindle entirely.

I prefer to own the book, and not merely a license to use a DRM'ed instance of it.

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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post #21

While I find this article sad, it's ultimately inevitable as far as I see it. I read a lot, and I enjoy collecting books, but I ceased buying physical books a long time ago. I've started backfilling my ebook collection based on my old physical collections. At some point, I will be able to find digital replacements for 99% of my physical book collections and I will eventually find a decent way to digitize the rest. Ul…

Contrarily, I buy physical books and have stopped using my kindle entirely. I prefer to own the book, and not merely a license to use a DRM'ed instance of it.

Meh, there’s a good number of writers that publish their books DRM-free, though. At least, most everything I read has a DRM-free edition for sale.

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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post #2

Wow, Seattle's been all over HN the last couple days. Not that I mind, but it's a little strange.

Maybe someone ordered a bunch of submarines (stories). http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html

He's not wrong, but Jesus it's depressing to read 12 years later:

> the readers are leaving, and they're not coming back. Why? I think the main reason is that the writing online is more honest.

Ahahaha oh God.

> Whatever its flaws, the writing you find online is authentic. It's not mystery meat cooked up out of scraps of pitch letters and press releases, and pressed into molds of zippy journalese. It's people writing what they think.

"The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got it made."

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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post #21

While I find this article sad, it's ultimately inevitable as far as I see it. I read a lot, and I enjoy collecting books, but I ceased buying physical books a long time ago. I've started backfilling my ebook collection based on my old physical collections. At some point, I will be able to find digital replacements for 99% of my physical book collections and I will eventually find a decent way to digitize the rest. Ul…

Contrarily, I buy physical books and have stopped using my kindle entirely. I prefer to own the book, and not merely a license to use a DRM'ed instance of it.

And then there's non-fiction, which never really works right as an ebook.

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you can go to charm school and learn to conceal your obtuse cruelty behind an urbane facade.

I read it as sarcasm/satire of a typical HN position - impossible to tell.

Poe's Law is a bitch these days.

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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> That’s what publishers did. They allowed a far less expensive version of their books to be available right away, undercutting the sale of hardcovers with the cheaper e-version. And...? Is the author seriously trying to convince me that getting books into the hands of poorer people immediately is a bad thing? > Those who couldn’t afford the hardcover price knew they could get it at the library or get it in paperback…

It's been several years since epubs from major publishers were much cheaper than paper.

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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post #4

I can only point to one quibble: * Those who have benefited from the exposure and attention of little shops, who are so grateful for our help launching them into bestsellerdom suddenly do not wish to use their power and leverage to help those who gave them attention and benefits. “I contacted sales and all the tip-ins went to Barnes and Noble. I have no control over that…” Well who the hell has more control that a ma…

Tom Clancy died in 2013.

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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I'm deeply saddened to hear that the Seattle Mystery Bookshop is closing. This feels like something easily missed in today's automation-based economy; the ability to go to an expert and get quality recommendations is not to be missed. Seattle Mystery Bookshop was only one of many excellent book stores in the Seattle area, but it seems that their number is diminishing by the day. I can only assume that that trend hold…

Is the major benefit an expert to give you recommendations? How is this different from any online medium like Reddit or Facebook where an expert can do the same thing, without a local constraint?

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indie book stores are doing fine actually. The model is closer to thriving than done. https://www.voanews.com/a/indie-booksellers-hold-steady-toug... http://publishingperspectives.com/2016/01/independent-bookst... http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_edgy_optimist/201... http://theweek.com/articles/573874/4-reasons-why-independent...

This is what I don't understand about this blog post. It goes directly against this narrative that I've been hearing for a while now (and which you are pointing out with sources), that independent bookstores are thriving. What makes them different than this place? I've never been to the store in the article. Maybe its because they're still trying to sell new books, and the thriving stores are all selling used books?…

Bookselling is not generally a high-margin business, and a decline in foot traffic due to parking, construction, etc. can make a huge difference - that's what happened to The Stars Our Destination, a SF bookstore in Chicago that closed more than a decade ago. Parking on the side streets became sticker-only and restricted to residents, which meant that it was difficult for people to get to "destination" stores. I know from personal experience that it was easy to waste a half hour or more just driving around the area looking for a parking space.

Re: Why the Seattle Mystery Bookshop Must Close

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> When movies on cassette became practical, think of what it would have done to the Hollywood model if movies could be rented at the same time they hit theaters allowing people to see a movie for far cheaper than going to a theater?

> That’s what publishers did. They allowed a far less expensive version of their books to be available right away, undercutting the sale of hardcovers with the cheaper e-version

This is a fraught analogy and in a way shows the lack of forward thinking of lots of people in the book and publishing industry.

The problem is that from a customer perspective, an ebook == hardcover in nearly all ways. It has the same story, it is written by the same author, you can read it at home or on the bus. There's no difference. In fact, some might argue ebook > hardcover since it takes up no space and you can use a Kindle and all the features it has.

Watching a movie in a movie theater is about the experience of being with others with amazing sound and video quality as well as the actual movie. So movie theater > movie at home for most people.

Forward thinking would be the Steam way which Amazon has tried to do with ebooks: sell for less but make up for it with huge volume. Yet publishers often price ebooks higher or equal to physical copies.

It's sad to see this bookstore go and I wish I would have visited it since I live in Seattle. But this is a pretty poor analysis on the "changes in the over-all economy".

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