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The First PS4 Kernel Exploit: Adieu

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Re: The First PS4 Kernel Exploit: Adieu

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From what I've observed, this is where the unending cat-and-mouse game begins for Sony.

In fairness, it started back when Sony shipped their first piece of hardware with technical measures to prevent users from consuming the media of their choice :)

Naw, the homebrew/piracy groups have been around since the birth of the console industry. It’s been an ongoing cat and mouse game for over 30 years at least.

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Is it me or Sony has become good at protecting its software ? I remember a time when every new console would be hacked within the year it was released.

Psx, PS2, Wii, PSP have been hacked to their bone, it was a great time because of the community it had created. All these people focused on finding exploits and sharing the most obscure techniques to restore a bricked device! I don't see this anymore. Maybe they are mining bitcoins or playing Candy crush.

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If anything the PS4 is a downgrade from the PS3 here. The PS3 ran everything in a hypervisor.

I guess if people want this to happen they should goad George Hotz by telling him he can't possibly beat the protection.

Guy is too busy raging about self-driving car regulations and making ODBII dongles.

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Isn't everyone?

Not like he is. If memory serves, if he tries to break a Sony device again, he faces massive fines, etc.

Do you have a good link for some backstory on this one? I'm not sure how that could even be possible in the legal frameworks.

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Not like he is. If memory serves, if he tries to break a Sony device again, he faces massive fines, etc.

Do you have a good link for some backstory on this one? I'm not sure how that could even be possible in the legal frameworks.

Terms of the settlement: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-hotz-settlement-detai...

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Do you have a good link for some backstory on this one? I'm not sure how that could even be possible in the legal frameworks.

Terms of the settlement: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-hotz-settlement-detai...

Holy crap! Thanks!

That's insane. I'm not a gamer but it looks like they just published how to "hack" the console and they were hit with that. That's crazy. In the span of a minute, I can think of a dozen better solutions to this.

If I'm reading properly, they didn't even do anything that I'd call wrong. They found an exploit and published it. I suppose the DMCA and "circumvention tools" come into play - but that only points to the absurdity of the situation (at least in my opinion).

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Terms of the settlement: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-hotz-settlement-detai...

Holy crap! Thanks! That's insane. I'm not a gamer but it looks like they just published how to "hack" the console and they were hit with that. That's crazy. In the span of a minute, I can think of a dozen better solutions to this. If I'm reading properly, they didn't even do anything that I'd call wrong. They found an exploit and published it. I suppose the DMCA and "circumvention tools" come into play - but that onl…

Sony threw everything at them: DMCA, CFAA, copyright, California Computer Crime Law, even violating the PSN TOS.

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Holy crap! Thanks! That's insane. I'm not a gamer but it looks like they just published how to "hack" the console and they were hit with that. That's crazy. In the span of a minute, I can think of a dozen better solutions to this. If I'm reading properly, they didn't even do anything that I'd call wrong. They found an exploit and published it. I suppose the DMCA and "circumvention tools" come into play - but that onl…

Sony threw everything at them: DMCA, CFAA, copyright, California Computer Crime Law, even violating the PSN TOS.

I support IP rights, as a general rule. However, they sure get abused. I'm kind of annoyed about this, even though I have nothing to do with it.

If you break my system, thanks for letting us know. It'd be great if we could pay you to help fix our system and make it more difficult to break in the future.

I'd not take them to court. I'd try to hire them. Hell, I'd give them reward money - even if they didn't want to be hired.

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Sony threw everything at them: DMCA, CFAA, copyright, California Computer Crime Law, even violating the PSN TOS.

I support IP rights, as a general rule. However, they sure get abused. I'm kind of annoyed about this, even though I have nothing to do with it. If you break my system, thanks for letting us know. It'd be great if we could pay you to help fix our system and make it more difficult to break in the future. I'd not take them to court. I'd try to hire them. Hell, I'd give them reward money - even if they didn't want to be…

Intellectual property is theft.
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