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Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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Re: Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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It's still a sore spot. It was like a knife in the ribs. A really long knife. Serrated. And floppy. Spinning, too. Laced with Carolina Reaper sauce.

With the death of Google Reader, I completely stopped reading feeds. It killed a part of the internet for me.

Social networks came in with their own version of what a "feed" is and then Push started to rise.

So the old model of on-request feeds was probably on the downfall anyway.

Re: Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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That was over four years ago. It's time to move on with your life. You'll meet other feeds and timelines...

It's still a sore spot. It was like a knife in the ribs. A really long knife. Serrated. And floppy. Spinning, too. Laced with Carolina Reaper sauce.

I still have the Reader bookmark next to Gmail's. Once or twice a year I click it accidentally and get angry all over again. It serves as a reminder to not put all my eggs in one basket.

Re: Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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Same reason everyone not Facebook hasn't yet given up and declared defeat? This isn't Highlander: there can be more than one. Google+ has plenty of active communities of people who choose not to use Facebook. Nothing wrong with that.

In fact afaict G+ has a very different vibe from Facebook, so I think of it as an alternative to Twitter rather than to Facebook - it generally feels like a public discourse rather than a "share my baby pictures with homies" type vibe. Except you have more than 160 characters (or whatever Twitter's new limit is), so conversations can flourish much better. There are multiple writer communities, DIY communities, Yoga/m…

Except you can do almost everything on g+:

Share with the world like twitter: check

Share to selected people: check

Share in a collection so people who like my posts on topic x don’t have to follow my posts about topic y: check

Multiple identities: actually yes, check

Re: Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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> Many people, my wife included, use it regularly. That's all I needed to hear. Google+ is the most legit social networking site now.

If you haven't heard about this person's wife using Google+ it's a little bit of anecdotical evidence that it's doing its job of supporting communities rather than generically connecting people (like Facebook). The user interface remains outstandingly bad, but I've never seen clickbait links or scammers on Google+.

The user interface remains outstandingly bad...

?

This grumpy old engineer likes it.

Re: Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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Same reason everyone not Facebook hasn't yet given up and declared defeat? This isn't Highlander: there can be more than one. Google+ has plenty of active communities of people who choose not to use Facebook. Nothing wrong with that.

While I don't use G+ for anything, a good friend tells me that's where the role-playing game community is centered. He writes blog posts about an RPG he's developing, then links to them from his G+ account so that people with an interest will see them.

So that's one active community, at least.

Re: Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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Same reason everyone not Facebook hasn't yet given up and declared defeat? This isn't Highlander: there can be more than one. Google+ has plenty of active communities of people who choose not to use Facebook. Nothing wrong with that.

In fact afaict G+ has a very different vibe from Facebook, so I think of it as an alternative to Twitter rather than to Facebook - it generally feels like a public discourse rather than a "share my baby pictures with homies" type vibe. Except you have more than 160 characters (or whatever Twitter's new limit is), so conversations can flourish much better. There are multiple writer communities, DIY communities, Yoga/m…

That's also how I tend to use it. I think the main issue was that it was positioned as "hey, we built a better Facebook!"

This was somewhat accurate IMO since I prefer the layout, features (many of which Facebook added shortly after), and granular sharing (which Facebook most certainly lacks).

The main issue I ran across was that Facebook continued to dominate in the space because it was the first to gain a critical mass of users across a wide spectrum. MySpace was big with the younger crowd but typically you didn't find your mom, your boss, your barber alongside your friends and drinking buddies.

Facebook was the first big one where eventually all of your relatives (even the ones who typically didn't care about "techie" stuff) and acquaintances built a profile. So when G+ came out, most of my friends tried it out and quickly realized that they would still need to cross-post things to Facebook if they wanted to share with all of their contacts and not just those who like trying out new things.

Without a common API or protocol, there was no way to just pick the service you prefer and go on with your life. With email, I could switch from Hotmail to Yahoo to Gmail (or even roll my own server) in search of the right setup for my preferences. I could still email anyone who refused to give up their AOL account or who used their work email.

Facebook-style social networking requires everyone to be on the same platform in order for it to work. So instead of some people sticking with Facebook while a big chunk slowly migrated to G+ or other competitors over the space of a few years, you ended up with lots of people trying out G+ and getting annoyed that only a few friends bothered to read/reply.

So now it's mostly used as more of a subreddit-style thing where you can have topical groups rather than personal friends and acquaintances. I still do think it's a shame they couldn't "build a better Facebook" because it would be nice to have a few options for that type of thing. But unless some new player can convince absolutely everyone you know to migrate, it just isn't happening anytime soon.

Re: Ask HN: Why hasn’t Google killed Google Plus?

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It's still a sore spot. It was like a knife in the ribs. A really long knife. Serrated. And floppy. Spinning, too. Laced with Carolina Reaper sauce.

With the death of Google Reader, I completely stopped reading feeds. It killed a part of the internet for me.

I found https://goread.io/ as my replacement. Doesn't have the intelligence to spotlight articles, but it does pretty well.
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