> advanced civilizations just want to compute We got the answer right here. It's much more interesting and probable to meet AGI than aliens. Space travel is dangerous, but virtual space is just as interesting.
Cool plot line for a SF novel. We advance VR so much that we end up meeting another civilization THERE instead of outside.
Computing and the Fermi Paradox: A New Idea Emerges – The Aliens Are All Asleep
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Re: Computing and the Fermi Paradox: A New Idea Emerges – The Aliens Are All Asleep
#22> advanced civilizations just want to compute We got the answer right here. It's much more interesting and probable to meet AGI than aliens. Space travel is dangerous, but virtual space is just as interesting.
Cool plot line for a SF novel. We advance VR so much that we end up meeting another civilization THERE instead of outside.
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#23If you sleep you're at the mercy of who doesn't sleep. You can take countermeasures but you're going to have surprises when your wake up. Btw, the latest scifi I read on the subject is http://compellingsciencefiction.com/stories/fermis-last-surv...
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#24So they're only undetectable as a side effect of being efficient. Not because they're hiding or have all died in a cosmic extinction.
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#26The Fermi Paradox is the contradiction between the very reasonable surmise that there must be other forms of technologically advanced life out there somewhere in our great galaxy and the complete lack of any evidence for it. But not quite. This paradox assumes that a more technologically advanced society would naturally expand it's energy usage and output to the point that it could be detected by us. That is, expand…
The notion in the article is great fodder for a novel, but I think this perspective is sound. You've said almost as much, but I think there's a good argument to be made that societies which undergo an industrial revolution either collapse the ecology that supports them, or survive it by maturing and expending energy on QoL for the whole biosphere. In either case the window of time for making a cosmic racket is fairly…
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#27> advanced civilizations just want to compute We got the answer right here. It's much more interesting and probable to meet AGI than aliens. Space travel is dangerous, but virtual space is just as interesting.
Cool plot line for a SF novel. We advance VR so much that we end up meeting another civilization THERE instead of outside.
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#28My humble impression is that each and every philosophical hypotesis we make is somewhat based on human paradygms, structures, and super-structures. Why can’t we accept that we populated this world for the equivalent of a cosmic blink, and we are therefore unequipped to even grasp the existence of other life forms? I am a fan of Bostrom’s conjecture about the simulation, though. 1/3 is a damn high probability. At the…
> each and every philosophical hypotesis we make is somewhat based on human paradygms, structures, and super-structures Unfortunately, we can't do it any other way, by the very nature of conscious thoughts. > Why can’t we accept that we populated this world for the equivalent of a cosmic blink, and we are therefore unequipped to even grasp the existence of other life forms? Why should we? We might be doing a lousy jo…
We've literally never done this before, so we don't even have a very good idea whether we're doing a good job or not, that's how clueless we are. Signs are pointing to us more or less killing ourselves, though.