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If only there was a way that millions of mops and pops could club together to fund research into areas that might benefit them all...
If there were a way we'd surely see them opt-into that arrangement.
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> They're in almost every grocery store around here (I can only assume they're popular), 88% cacao, and much less bitter/harsh. Evidently you're in Utah, USA. It's good to mention actual location, rather than 'around here', for people that don't know where you are. McDonalds are pretty much everywhere - that means they're popular, by definition, however most discerning consumers wouldn't consider them a high quality…
> Evidently you're in Utah, USA. > It's good to mention actual location, rather than 'around here', for people that don't know where you are. Why? What difference would that have made? Either the bars exist where the parent lives or they don't. My location has nothing to do with that. I only mention that they're common in my area as a "maybe they're common enough to also be found where you are" data point. > McDonald…
It makes it easier for other people to determine the likelihood / difficulty of them finding this recommendation of yours.
The hyperbolic passion conveyed by 'hate' and 'taste like car battery' to describe a luxury item you are not compelled to consume meant I wasn't about to put much effort into looking anyway.
However, I've just now tried to locate a 'black panther bar' and have discovered it would cost me US$50+ in order to obtain.
Presumably because I'm not 'around here'.
> What's your point?
That popularity does not imply, let alone guarantee, quality.
> Possibly. I don't really know enough about the respective bars to really speak to that.
Could you perhaps review the nutritional information on one of your packets?
Reviewing their website, Endangered Species Natural Dark Chocolate (72% Cocoa) is about 27% sugar.
The Black Panther variety (88% Cocoa) is 11% sugar.
In the plain dark chocolate market there doesn't seem to be much variety - or indeed much room for variety - of ingredients:
Black Panther: BITTERSWEET CHOCOLATE (CHOCOLATE LIQUOR, CANE SUGAR, COCOA BUTTER, SOY LECITHIN, VANILLA).
Lindt does not seem to include soy lecithin in their comparably dark (90% Cocoa) chocolate. (Of course they may use it but not mention it -- this seems unlikely as around here (Australia) we're fairly strict on nutrition and ingredient advisories on processed foods.)
So, it might be informative for you to work out if soy lecithin's presence is the key.
I don't have a particularly acute sense of taste, and haven't eaten chocolate for a couple of decades, but some casual googling on the subject turns up some quite passionate tomes in both directions (no difference, lots of difference). Impossible to summarise, so I'll let you do your own research & taste tests if you're so inspired.
Re: The Mars company has sponsored hundreds of studies to show cocoa is good
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Evidently you're in Utah, USA. > It's good to mention actual location, rather than 'around here', for people that don't know where you are. Why? What difference would that have made? Either the bars exist where the parent lives or they don't. My location has nothing to do with that. I only mention that they're common in my area as a "maybe they're common enough to also be found where you are" data point. > McDonald…
> Why? What difference would that have made? It makes it easier for other people to determine the likelihood / difficulty of them finding this recommendation of yours. The hyperbolic passion conveyed by 'hate' and 'taste like car battery' to describe a luxury item you are not compelled to consume meant I wasn't about to put much effort into looking anyway. However, I've just now tried to locate a 'black panther bar'…
The original parent asked for an opinion, and I gave it. Perhaps hyperbolic, but also concise in its description.
It would not be “informative” for me to research anything, since I already know about the soy lecithin angle and didn’t think it was worth mentioning.
What makes each bar taste differently wasn’t part of the discussion until you brought it up, and you obviously have answers to that question, so there’s no need to belabor it.
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Any organization that has come close to "the ability to allocate the entire society's resources toward the common good" have created societies of great suffering and desperation so far. Maybe some super-intelligent computer system could do better?
That's just a more efficient way to propagate the preferences of whoever gets to control the computer system.
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> Why? What difference would that have made? It makes it easier for other people to determine the likelihood / difficulty of them finding this recommendation of yours. The hyperbolic passion conveyed by 'hate' and 'taste like car battery' to describe a luxury item you are not compelled to consume meant I wasn't about to put much effort into looking anyway. However, I've just now tried to locate a 'black panther bar'…
So much condescension for an opinion. What exactly have you apointed yourself to teach me? The original parent asked for an opinion, and I gave it. Perhaps hyperbolic, but also concise in its description. It would not be “informative” for me to research anything, since I already know about the soy lecithin angle and didn’t think it was worth mentioning. What makes each bar taste differently wasn’t part of the discuss…
Whereas I would suggest it's precisely the kind of interesting insight that you should have shared, given its potential importance to the discussion, and the fact the word lecithin doesn't appear anywhere in TFA or HN comments (at the time).
Anyhoo, ultimately I did manage to learn something interesting from your 'where I'm standing right now there's shops nearby that sell chocolate that I like' contribution. So that's good.
Aside -- can hyperbole be concise? Brief, certainly. Concise to me suggests accuracy.
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Solid cacao and black coffee both have some good and reasonably well-established therapeutic properties in small amounts. But "American-style" (huge servings with tons of sugar and fats added) they are just junk food.
okay, what if I have them with diet coke?