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AT&T killed that idea fast 6 years ago. When the Motorola Atrix came out with the ability to do that AT&T charge a $20 tethering fee to use the laptop dock with the phone! That blew my mind. The phone wasn't tethering data to anything but itself. https://www.wired.com/2011/03/motorola-atrix/
Tethering fees are another "brilliant" invention by the customer-hating American telcos. You get a set amount of data per month, for instance 20GB. Why should they care at all what you decide to use that data for?
Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones
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Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones
#132Ubuntu wanted to do this but it never went anywhere... and they didn't open source their code. What an absolute shame. I really loved the idea of it. You had the whole Android / Java / Bionic runtime sharing the same kernel as your GNU stuff. They had a way that you could even access your Android stuff from within your desktop environment like apps, contacts, text messages, etc.
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You didnt. And some others as well. But plenty, especially professionals, still do. Not to mention that nearly all laptops except Apple & Microsofts (which are in minority) are upgradeable to some degree. Written from my Thinkpad :)
I have a thinkpad (x1 carbon) and it's definitely not upgradeable :-) The people who will buy a phone dock are probably also the same people that value ultra-lightweight devices, so I don't think you're in the same bracket as them
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Who said it will be Ubuntu? If this is anything like past attempts at a Linux desktop running from a mobile phone, it will be a Samsung optimized (i.e. locked down) half baked chroot monstrosity with limited tools and locked to the phone's ancient, bastardized kernel with zero security updates from launch forward. I think it would be awesome and amazing if I was completely wrong about all of that, but I'm not holding…
Here's a photo of it running Ubuntu 16.04 at a Samsung booth with a 4.4. Kernel. https://twitter.com/TizenHelper/status/920507238485233664
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#135It's quite interesting that with the power of today's mobile devices (multicore 1GHz+ CPUs, GPUs, 2Gb+ RAM) we still don't have a standardized interface to plug them into desktop peripherals and launch a desktop OS/GUI. One would thing that such an universal interface would quickly become a standard offering in airports, hotels, libraries, conferences, etc.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
AT&T killed that idea fast 6 years ago. When the Motorola Atrix came out with the ability to do that AT&T charge a $20 tethering fee to use the laptop dock with the phone! That blew my mind. The phone wasn't tethering data to anything but itself. https://www.wired.com/2011/03/motorola-atrix/
Tethering fees are another "brilliant" invention by the customer-hating American telcos. You get a set amount of data per month, for instance 20GB. Why should they care at all what you decide to use that data for?
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Until USB-C it doesn't carry analog audio. Like the iPod itself, it's not a question of new functionality, but better usability/popularity of existing functionality. The revolutionary aspect was that you could just drop an iPod into the dock and it would start playing your music through the dock's speakers, while also charging. This didn't require the dock to be "smart", it was analog audio.
>>This didn't require the dock to be "smart", it was analog audio. Not smart, just have a 30pin connector. Having DAC on board would be trivial (esp. after paying the royalties for the connector). So calling it revolutionary is just being an Apple shill.
Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones
#138Ubuntu wanted to do this but it never went anywhere... and they didn't open source their code. What an absolute shame. I really loved the idea of it. You had the whole Android / Java / Bionic runtime sharing the same kernel as your GNU stuff. They had a way that you could even access your Android stuff from within your desktop environment like apps, contacts, text messages, etc.
It is open source and it is being continued at https://ubports.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
It worked on Galaxy S4, and Samsung were really close to shipping it on every S4. It never did ship though, and the project was abandoned. A couple of people who worked on it tried to push for open sourcing it, but I don't think it ever was open sourced.
You could hook it up to an external monitor with an MHL-HDMI cable. Of course the SoC wasn't as beefy as ones we have now, but it was pretty OK.
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I don't think it's just that, the point is that under the current Android HW situation, phones are locked to kernel versions. Any necessary kernel updates after release are then manually back ported to that kernel version. So that means you won't be able to install any Linux system, you'll have to run that provided by Samsung, running their own custom kernel. Although I agree we should be supportive.
The kernel sources are all out there, the kernel part of the BSP is GPL by necessity. Samsung actually makes some effort to upstream a certain amount of the kernel code coming from their chipset vendors (because Samsung uses entirely different chipsets for different markets, so it's more convenient to have fewer downstream patches). There is nothing, and I mean nothing, to stop you from forward-porting any driver or…
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Until USB-C it doesn't carry analog audio. Like the iPod itself, it's not a question of new functionality, but better usability/popularity of existing functionality. The revolutionary aspect was that you could just drop an iPod into the dock and it would start playing your music through the dock's speakers, while also charging. This didn't require the dock to be "smart", it was analog audio.
Whats the problem with USB3 not carrying analog audio? Instead of placing the DAC in the phone, we now place it in the audio device, it makes no difference. One could argue it's better, as we now have choice in the quality of the DAC, instead of being stuck on the one in your device.
Moving the audio to all-digital moves more NRE cost to the devices. It also means there's a potential for the "choice" of rubbish DACs to save cost.