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Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by herbst »

bluedino wrote: post #117
herbst wrote: post #109

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I dont think this will ever be a thing. For me phones are (sorrily) throw away products, usually not build to last. Computers are expandable, upgradeable machines that you build for your use case and have for years without having to worry to much. Even mac folks have their Macbooks at least twice as long as their phones. So i dont see this happening for any kind of professional use anytime soon. But who knows. Discla…

>> Computers are expandable, upgradeable machines Not anymore they're not. I haven't bought an upgradeable laptop since 2011.

You didnt. And some others as well. But plenty, especially professionals, still do. Not to mention that nearly all laptops except Apple & Microsofts (which are in minority) are upgradeable to some degree.

Written from my Thinkpad :)

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by ericfrederich »

Ubuntu wanted to do this but it never went anywhere... and they didn't open source their code. What an absolute shame.

I really loved the idea of it. You had the whole Android / Java / Bionic runtime sharing the same kernel as your GNU stuff. They had a way that you could even access your Android stuff from within your desktop environment like apps, contacts, text messages, etc.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

herbst wrote: post #121
bluedino wrote: post #117

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>> Computers are expandable, upgradeable machines Not anymore they're not. I haven't bought an upgradeable laptop since 2011.

You didnt. And some others as well. But plenty, especially professionals, still do. Not to mention that nearly all laptops except Apple & Microsofts (which are in minority) are upgradeable to some degree. Written from my Thinkpad :)

I have a thinkpad (x1 carbon) and it's definitely not upgradeable :-)

The people who will buy a phone dock are probably also the same people that value ultra-lightweight devices, so I don't think you're in the same bracket as them

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by jrs95 »

saagarjha wrote: post #55

> Linux on Galaxy allows the latest Samsung Galaxy smartphone users to run their preferred Linux distribution on their smartphones utilizing the same Linux kernel that powers the Android OS to ensure the best possible performance. (emphasis mine) I knew there was a catch somewhere. I seriously doubt there's a technical reason why older Galaxy models can't support running Linux as well. I don't understand why it's so…

Older devices are probably on much older kernels that most distros stopped using a long time ago. It's not really practical to try and bridge that gap.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

maccard wrote: post #88
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #84

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We are almost reaching tipping point here - my laptop is still more powerful than my phone, but only just. If USB-C can really support this connectivity (2 monitors, plus keyboard, mouse and a couple of usb ports), a really great implementation could work well. I think Apple are the only company that can pull this off right now, everyone else is too fragmented to get the hardware/software integration right, and popul…

My phone has already replaced what I used to use my laptop for, but it's not going to replace my work PC anytime soon. Compiling our work C++ proejct takes about 40 minutes on a 32 core workstation, and my mobile phone isn't going to replace that right now, even if I can connect some peripherals to it.

I think you're a bit of an edge case though - most people don't need 32 cores, even for work.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by peterwwillis »

testfailure wrote: post #35
jon-wood wrote: post #19

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USB-C is that standard interface - when working at my desk I can plug a single USB-C cable into my laptop and it gains two monitors, external audio, keyboard, mouse, webcam, and all the other things you'd expect.

I wish wish wish USB-C was that reliable across the spectrum https://marco.org/2017/10/14/impossible-dream-of-usb-c

In the mean time you can buy a phone with MHL output, use BT for keyboard/mouse, and wifi for data. Root the device and dual boot Linux. By the time the phone is obsolete, USB-C will be stable.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by fpig »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #84
JorgeGT wrote: post #10

It's quite interesting that with the power of today's mobile devices (multicore 1GHz+ CPUs, GPUs, 2Gb+ RAM) we still don't have a standardized interface to plug them into desktop peripherals and launch a desktop OS/GUI. One would thing that such an universal interface would quickly become a standard offering in airports, hotels, libraries, conferences, etc.

We are almost reaching tipping point here - my laptop is still more powerful than my phone, but only just. If USB-C can really support this connectivity (2 monitors, plus keyboard, mouse and a couple of usb ports), a really great implementation could work well. I think Apple are the only company that can pull this off right now, everyone else is too fragmented to get the hardware/software integration right, and popul…

But for work you probably want a more powerful computer...

So for us devs it would mostly be for non-work stuff. And then you have the problem that you'd have to carry around external hardware with you or find places that offer it for use.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

baldfat wrote: post #112
JorgeGT wrote: post #10

It's quite interesting that with the power of today's mobile devices (multicore 1GHz+ CPUs, GPUs, 2Gb+ RAM) we still don't have a standardized interface to plug them into desktop peripherals and launch a desktop OS/GUI. One would thing that such an universal interface would quickly become a standard offering in airports, hotels, libraries, conferences, etc.

AT&T killed that idea fast 6 years ago. When the Motorola Atrix came out with the ability to do that AT&T charge a $20 tethering fee to use the laptop dock with the phone! That blew my mind. The phone wasn't tethering data to anything but itself. https://www.wired.com/2011/03/motorola-atrix/

Tethering fees are another "brilliant" invention by the customer-hating American telcos.

You get a set amount of data per month, for instance 20GB. Why should they care at all what you decide to use that data for?

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

nolok wrote: post #114
amigoingtodie wrote: post #93

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Windows 98 'Second Edition' supported USB. I just want to say that Windows 10 does feel like Windows Millenium (an 'incomplete' OS).

I don't see how you can say that, unless you've not actually used Windows ME and/or 10 for any significant period of time. Windows 10 is very well polished. It's also the first windows where most of the user's gripes are stuff added on top of it (telemetry, simplified/restricted update system, ...). Windows ME, by comparison, was so bad that merely leaving it running would end up causing PC Health crashes.

>Windows 10 is very well polished

Well, aside from Windows Defender steadfastly turning itself off because it thinks I have a different AV package installed (I don't) and "helpfully" redirecting me to uninstall the offending software first. Only there is no other AV package to uninstall.

I have so far been absolutely unable to find any sort of resolution to this issue, short of a full reinstall.

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