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Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by snops »

JorgeGT wrote: post #10

It's quite interesting that with the power of today's mobile devices (multicore 1GHz+ CPUs, GPUs, 2Gb+ RAM) we still don't have a standardized interface to plug them into desktop peripherals and launch a desktop OS/GUI. One would thing that such an universal interface would quickly become a standard offering in airports, hotels, libraries, conferences, etc.

Display port over USB-C should be this, the Samsung Galaxy S8 was the first to support it.

Unfortunately, while quite a few docks are on the market, compatibility is a bit iffy, and rival USB-C alt modes like HDMI and MHL muddy the waters.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by jaclaz »

As often happens, I don't understand why one would want to subscribe in order to be notified when it becomes public.

I mean, I can understand subscribing in order to get a beta or pre-release, but if right now nothing is available and when it will be available it will be public, it seems to me nothing more than a personal data collection.

When it will be public there will also be a lot of publicity about it, so it's not likely that one needs to be notified.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by erikb »

JorgeGT wrote: post #10

It's quite interesting that with the power of today's mobile devices (multicore 1GHz+ CPUs, GPUs, 2Gb+ RAM) we still don't have a standardized interface to plug them into desktop peripherals and launch a desktop OS/GUI. One would thing that such an universal interface would quickly become a standard offering in airports, hotels, libraries, conferences, etc.

It's the natural desire in a free market to gain monopoly status and the desire to decrease the support matrix. Therefore most smartphone companies will try to log you into their own choice of OS. It's not an asshole move, it's just the most logical conclusion given the context they are in.

The way to get around that is supporting such kind of project (like fairphone, ubuntu mobile, linux on samsung) and gaining a true majority in the user base. However that is unlikely since for most people it's good enough to just run instagram, whatsapp and spotify. And for that the OS really doesn't matter.

*edit: I thought about something one can do also. Not an expert about these, but these very flat laptops like macbook air, I think they are underneath the keyboard also a smartphone/tablet. Buying these may increase the desire to create smaller and smaller computers. If what is labelled "computer" gets as small as a smart-phone that's also fine for our usecase, but it may be easier to digest for marketing people of these big corps.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by JepZ »

5h wrote: post #20

I've been using termux and a fold out bluetooth keyboard for django development & code review for quite a while on my pixel XL. I absolutely love having my dev work on my phone, being able to hack away or do code review for 5 minutes wherever is incredible. At home using a chrome-cast and have it on a big screen. It would be nice to have a window manager I suppose - but i'll probably end up in a full screen terminal…

Yeah, screen size sucks. Didn't Intel build some wireless screen technology a few years ago? Somehow I never saw it in action, but as far as I can imagine I would like to have a >24 inch screen which I could use as a normal Display Port monitor, but also via NFC (+ some magic wireless technology) as a wireless monitor for my smart phone.

Does anybody know where I can buy such a device or why it is not yet available?

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by pjmlp »

bostand wrote: post #14
pjmlp wrote: post #9

Given how Tizen has been managed thus far I am not having big hopes for it, but lets see.

Tizen on smartwatch is pretty awesome. Imho its miles ahead of the other watch OSes

I guess you never bother to actually program on it.

Tizen already went through these reboots:

1 - Replaced Meego SDK with Bada OS SDK

2 - Replaced Bada OS SDK with EFL + C++ SDK

3 - Dropped C++ SDK and replaced a new pure C API alongside EFL

4 - Currently adopting .NET Core + Xamarin.Forms

Then there is the whole issue of code quality.

https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/15001/enlightened

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/12/samsungs_tizen_no_l...

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by Maakuth »

snops wrote: post #21
JorgeGT wrote: post #10

It's quite interesting that with the power of today's mobile devices (multicore 1GHz+ CPUs, GPUs, 2Gb+ RAM) we still don't have a standardized interface to plug them into desktop peripherals and launch a desktop OS/GUI. One would thing that such an universal interface would quickly become a standard offering in airports, hotels, libraries, conferences, etc.

Display port over USB-C should be this, the Samsung Galaxy S8 was the first to support it. Unfortunately, while quite a few docks are on the market, compatibility is a bit iffy, and rival USB-C alt modes like HDMI and MHL muddy the waters.

Interesting. Does this work for USB-C enabled laptops, say the latest MacBook Pros? Or does Apple only support Thunderbolt over USB-C for display connections?

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by pjmlp »

jaclaz wrote: post #23

As often happens, I don't understand why one would want to subscribe in order to be notified when it becomes public. I mean, I can understand subscribing in order to get a beta or pre-release, but if right now nothing is available and when it will be available it will be public, it seems to me nothing more than a personal data collection. When it will be public there will also be a lot of publicity about it, so it's…

The whole point is not to notify you, rather to get a feeling how much people would eventually buy it.

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by herpderperator »

I did something like this (shared kernel and chroot) on an old Nexus S back in 2012 with Gentoo. You can use a precompiled stage3 tarball which contains the fundamental filesystem layout and utilities (for the target architecture), and then for anything else that you need, you just use Portage (Gentoo's package manager) to compile stuff for you. Not super practical in terms of battery life and time if you're constantly compiling packages but a cool project nonetheless. This wasn't the exact guide I used, but it's the same idea: http://thinkmoult.com/installing-gentoo-android-chroot/

Re: Linux on Samsung Galaxy smartphones

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Post by pjmlp »

jankotek wrote: post #6

Can Galaxy even run without Linux kernel?

In theory yes.

Android doesn't expose a proper Linux to userspace and Google has been clapping down what we are allowed to do with the NDK since Android 7.0 (edit: corrected, only started in 7.0).

So playing "what if", you can replace Linux with something else that is compatible the NDK APIs and no one would notice, other than the OEMs.

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