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Vim after 15 Years

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Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by craftyguy »

soulnothing wrote: post #4
monkmartinez wrote: post #3

Problems with macOS and iTerm2... that is too bad. I am going to do a 30 day challenge with a Thinkpad from Costco next month. Full linux install with Ubuntu 17.10! I have wanted to try i3wm for as long as I can remember. Unfortunately, it is a PITA to get working on a VM with the Mac as the key chords don't play nicely intersystem. Super excited to give it a go... what is awesome is that I can have an IDE like Pycha…

I've been using i3 for years now. I experienced the same pain. Mac hijacks a lot of the child vm keybindings. I didn't have this problem with windows as the host os. But that doesn't really make sense. Best of luck with the transition. Posting from a thinkpad, with i3, pycharm and vim right now :).

How are you posting on HN from vim?

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by chillee »

tonyhb wrote: post #14

I'm an avid tmux+neovim user, too, though working with Reason is a lot easier in VS Code. Making the switch from actual vim to fake vim (ie JS emulation) sucks. Recently, VSCodeVim merged #1725 to add actual neovim as an editor - it's using NeoVim's embedding API so you're using neovim to edit the text file inside of VSCode's chrome, including all of VSCode's type hints and popups. Info here: https://github.com/VSCod…

To be clear (as the guy behind these efforts), what was merged was a PR to let Neovim handle Ex-commands. This by itself was already pretty cool. In The PR for full neovim integration is the one you linked. It's more than just making it work with your existing .vimrc file: it's making it work with most vim plugins, leveraging the neovim runtime to make macros run faster, etc.

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by eradicatethots »

Vim is the best lightweight single file editor there is. That’s all it should be. If you’re heavily configuring it, you should be able to answer “why is this better than an ide?” Without saying “vim makes me cool”. Also, if you can answer that, please let me know! To me, an IDE is better for everything but what default vim is good at.

And if you tell me that typing is faster, please also tell me why that’s relevant!

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by riquito »

lillesvin wrote: post #2

Interesting read, I've been using Vim for some 18 years myself and I was completely unaware of fzf. However, I'm curious if you know `rg` (aka. ripgrep): https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep In my experience it's markedly faster than `ag` (which is markedly faster than `grep`).

Damn, I'm an avid user of both fzf (super useful, recommended) and rg (yes, it's really faster than ag!) and I never thought of combining them... gotta try

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by ehsanu1 »

eradicatethots wrote: post #23

Vim is the best lightweight single file editor there is. That’s all it should be. If you’re heavily configuring it, you should be able to answer “why is this better than an ide?” Without saying “vim makes me cool”. Also, if you can answer that, please let me know! To me, an IDE is better for everything but what default vim is good at. And if you tell me that typing is faster, please also tell me why that’s relevant!

I can't live without my vim bindings now, it's incredibly jarring anytime I have to use someone else's editor. The muscle-memory is just too strong, and configuring vim with a bunch of plugins is extremely easy to do and provides me a lot of value for no downside afaict.

I started configuring vim years ago and have only tweaked it here and there over time, adding a plugin for this or that as I felt the need. I don't really see anything wrong with that :)

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by statico »

lillesvin wrote: post #2

Interesting read, I've been using Vim for some 18 years myself and I was completely unaware of fzf. However, I'm curious if you know `rg` (aka. ripgrep): https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep In my experience it's markedly faster than `ag` (which is markedly faster than `grep`).

That's been the response on Reddit and Disqus as well. Guess I'll have to give it a try!

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by statico »

chillee wrote: post #22
tonyhb wrote: post #14

I'm an avid tmux+neovim user, too, though working with Reason is a lot easier in VS Code. Making the switch from actual vim to fake vim (ie JS emulation) sucks. Recently, VSCodeVim merged #1725 to add actual neovim as an editor - it's using NeoVim's embedding API so you're using neovim to edit the text file inside of VSCode's chrome, including all of VSCode's type hints and popups. Info here: https://github.com/VSCod…

To be clear (as the guy behind these efforts), what was merged was a PR to let Neovim handle Ex-commands. This by itself was already pretty cool. In The PR for full neovim integration is the one you linked. It's more than just making it work with your existing .vimrc file: it's making it work with most vim plugins, leveraging the neovim runtime to make macros run faster, etc.

This is super cool. Thank you all for your hard work.

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by eddieroger »

eradicatethots wrote: post #23

Vim is the best lightweight single file editor there is. That’s all it should be. If you’re heavily configuring it, you should be able to answer “why is this better than an ide?” Without saying “vim makes me cool”. Also, if you can answer that, please let me know! To me, an IDE is better for everything but what default vim is good at. And if you tell me that typing is faster, please also tell me why that’s relevant!

> “why is this better than an ide?”

Because it's a workflow that works for some people. Shouldn't being the most effective you can be trump things like which editor is better, or IDE versus vanilla editor? Your workflow is your workflow, don't worry about other people's.

Re: Vim after 15 Years

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Post by regulation_d »

hyperpallium wrote: post #18
regulation_d wrote: post #13

tmux send-keys is fantastic. I recently added a shortcut to run the test that my cursor is on in a different pane. This changed my life. I thought I had to decide between having a separate pane to run my tests in and having a convenient and precise way to run to exactly the test or test file I want to run. But because of send-keys, I can have both!

Sounds cool! Could you share that shortcut please? I'm sure I could work it out, but there's always a bit of trial and error, and looking up docs without knowing the name in vim (for me, anyway).

For sure! There was definitely some trial and error as I was writing it. :) The specific use case I have is for running Elixir tests, but I'm sure adapting it wouldn't present too much of a challenge:

https://gist.github.com/ddresselhaus/98b022e295bc27e9264dece...

I haven't done a ton of Vim scripting and found this resource to be super helpful! https://devhints.io/vimscript

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