Does age have an effect on salary? I'm not getting paid as much as I should be getting paid for my tech profession..
New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
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Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#132I'd prefer to see this go in the other direction and make all salary information public. Right now, employers have far more information than employees, and I don't think this law will do much to change that. To me, it's similar to real estate - imagine if only sellers had access to the database of exactly what every house sold for and when, but buyers had to go with unsubstantiated, scattered rumors. Or vise versa. T…
h1b salary data is public. here you go: https://lcr-pjr.doleta.gov/index.cfm?event=ehLCJRExternal.ds...
btw, its not just shortage of "workers". Like it or not.. some h1b workers do have skills that you lack
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
No thank you. My salary is private. I do not want my family and friends to know how much I make. I also have never told a potential employer my salary. I believe it stopped things from going on to the interview stage but the way they took my refusal made me assume they paid under market rate.
Ok, but know that completely rational nations have decided to go with OPs way(like Norway)
All such information is public there?
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#134Nobody seems to comment about this part of the law : "if applicants ask — must give them a pay range for the job they are seeking" That's pretty interesting. I wonder how companies are gonna try to circumvent this.
By disclosing really wide ranges (which, IME, companies with internal salary ranges that are not disclosed to employees often have to start with, because they want some controls, but also to give management flexibility in recruiting and retention, so it's not even dishonest.)
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
No thank you. My salary is private. I do not want my family and friends to know how much I make. I also have never told a potential employer my salary. I believe it stopped things from going on to the interview stage but the way they took my refusal made me assume they paid under market rate.
Ok, but know that completely rational nations have decided to go with OPs way(like Norway)
I'd laugh my ass off if the CEO/upper management of any company in the US had to actually report to their employees how much they made, and not just through salary. There would be an uprising.
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#136Why can't you just say "it's under NDA"?
There are external services that'll go through documents like rental credit check applications to figure out your salary even if you don't give an answer to the hiring company. This law forbids those services as well.
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#137This is a ban on employers -- afaik, recruiters can still ask (and many probably will ask). But, IANAL. (Correction: It looks like recruiters fall under this prohibition too, if they are acting as agents of the employer.) I personally never answer questions about my previous salary or my expected salary. When HR has given me forms to fill out that have questions about either I just leave them blank, and they've never…
When asked about my salary, I always answer with the salary I wished I had. There's no requirement to tell the truth.
I did the same. Every time I moved jobs I got a pay raise because the number I provided was above what I was currently making. In a few cases, they offered well above what "I wish I had," which was a nice bonus.
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#138I've been confused about how this law (and/or similar laws in other states) applies when the applicant is not in the state. I'll be interviewing someone who currently lives in North Carolina, for a job in Washington, another interviewer is in South Carolina, and if hired the employee will report to someone in New York. Looks like none of these states have a law like this, but if any of them did, how does it work?
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
No thank you. My salary is private. I do not want my family and friends to know how much I make. I also have never told a potential employer my salary. I believe it stopped things from going on to the interview stage but the way they took my refusal made me assume they paid under market rate.
Ok, but know that completely rational nations have decided to go with OPs way(like Norway)
I believe that's part of the reason it's not really possible to get numbers like 5 times the average salary in Norway, while it definitely is as a software engineer in the US.
Re: New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary
#140I wonder if over time this leads to people making more getting lowballed, and wages actually dropping. The company could say well these people with these qualifications (on paper) took this amount, so you're asking for way over market rate.