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Documenting the Web together

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Re: Documenting the Web together

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Post by rand_r »

nblavoie wrote: post #3

Good Bye w3schools.com ?

w3schools.com is a great resource.

I prefer it when I need a quick refresher on an HTML element because it's especially good for having short, simple examples I can copy and paste.

MDN tends to be verbose and technical. It's good when you need to know everything in detail, but often I need a quick refresher and a simple example and for that w3schools.com always seems to have better content.

Compare these two pages for input types:

https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_form_input_types.asp

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/in...

The MDN page is more complete, but reading it gives me a headache.

Re: Documenting the Web together

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Post by jrowley »

andy_ppp wrote: post #18

Great, while they are at it can Google please downgrade the extremely spammy w3schools or at least allow me to remove certain websites from my searches. There are so many better resources out there...

Some googlers made this w3fools, so employees certainly aren't fond of w3schools.

http://www.w3fools.com/

Re: Documenting the Web together

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Post by the8472 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #18

Great, while they are at it can Google please downgrade the extremely spammy w3schools or at least allow me to remove certain websites from my searches. There are so many better resources out there...

https://www.google.com/search?q=querySelectorAll+-site:w3sch...

this syntax has been supported for many years

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Post by madeofpalk »

opendomain wrote: post #20

A few years ago most of these companies got together to do the same thing and launch the WebPlatform for the same thing. If you watch the video, you can see some guy named Tim Berners-Lee with a title "Web Developer" say it was the place to learn. I wonder why they are relaunching instead of using Webplatform.Org ?

I think MDN is already quite a trusted reference for developers, so abandoning that would be abandoning a lot of “brand value” that’s been earnt through lots of hard work.

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Post by tareqak »

Given that the blog is on windows.com and it mentions MSDN, I think the title should include Microsoft as well. I was actually confused/befuddled seeing the juxtaposition of Google and Mozilla in the title, and windows.com as the domain in brackets to the right of the title.

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Post by madeofpalk »

andy_ppp wrote: post #18

Great, while they are at it can Google please downgrade the extremely spammy w3schools or at least allow me to remove certain websites from my searches. There are so many better resources out there...

I’ll never/rarely click a w3schools link, but I do find MDN to be quite difficult to read with it’s pages being quite technical and terse. W3schools is quite pragmatic with providing a reference for CSS properties.

I hope these extra resources will let MDN improve on this.

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Post by the8472 »

opendomain wrote: post #20

A few years ago most of these companies got together to do the same thing and launch the WebPlatform for the same thing. If you watch the video, you can see some guy named Tim Berners-Lee with a title "Web Developer" say it was the place to learn. I wonder why they are relaunching instead of using Webplatform.Org ?

Can't beat them, join them. Developers simply go to MDN and MDN often is on top of the search results anyway. It often gets linked from stackoverflow too.

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Post by marksomnian »

Egidius wrote: post #14

For me, as an experienced front-end-focussed developer, MDN has been my go-to website for quick spec references. MDN has all I need to know, and I know my way around. However, I've been in teams where the less-experienced developers went to W3C Schools to see how they should implement some feature. And to be honest, I cannot completely blame them. W3C Schools shows directly what you need to know and how the API you a…

Your comment excellently demonstrates the problem with them: W3Schools is not related to the W3C in any way. Many beginners see the "W3" and think it's an official resource. This is bad.
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