Introducing Surface Book 2

Post by neals » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 7:30 AM UTC

0xffff2 wrote: post #476

neals wrote: post #211

Nice to see Microsoft bringing new consumer hardware to market. In the meantime, all Surface Pro 4 i7 devices become unusable due to graphic issues. The brilliant concepts by Microsoft are so amateuristically executed. I learned my lesson and am staying away. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpro4-s...

Certainly not all of them... I have used my SP4 as my only PC for several months at a time, doing everything from coding and CAD at work to gaming and Netflix at home and I've experienced no issues.

Post by dagaci » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 7:43 AM UTC

landr0id wrote: post #168

markcmyers wrote: post #146

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As a former advertising executive, I can tell you what the problem is here. The writer and his boss who approved the copy aren't addressing the customer, they're addressing the boss's boss. In a dysfunctional organization like Microsoft, communicating up rather than out is how you get promoted. It's a rare Microsoft employee who moves up the ladder by thinking about the customer.

Well in fairness, the link points to the Windows blog. The actual marketing page should probably be the link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book...

Post by aq3cn » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 7:56 AM UTC

plttn wrote: post #296

olympus wrote: post #269

Looking at the specs, (linked in another comment), it appears that the USB-C port doesn't support Thunderbolt 3. Seriously, Microsoft, you can't charge this much for a laptop without TB3. I know that TB started as an Apple standard, but you're not killing this port like you did with Firewire. Your case of NIMBY has cost you my sale. I'll wait and get the next premium Lenovo/HP/ASUS/etc Ultrabook with 8th gen i7 AND T…

Not enough PCIe lanes in Surface Connect. Since the CPU is in the clipboard, but the USB-C port is in the keyboard, there would have to be available PCIe lanes on the Surface Connect port, but it's taken up by the GPU lanes.

Post by sundvor » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 8:33 AM UTC

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Thanks! Was going wtf at the lack of technical specs in the release. No 32GB model is a bit of a shame, however it's great to see Coffee Lake now giving quad core power to ultrabooks. I'm hanging for the X1 Carbon with this line of CPU myself; currently on the 1st gen X1C with i7 cpu, and the main issue I have is probably the battery life aside from the 8gb memory. That was the top spec back in 2011, glad I didn't pe…

> it's great to see Coffee Lake now giving quad core power to ultrabooks. It's not Coffee Lake, it's Kaby R.

Post by jozzz » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 11:25 AM UTC

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That's pretty much the exact T470p config I was thinking of getting. I will probably rarely use the keyboard/trackpad except when travelling (not often) as most days I plan to use an usb mechanical keyboard+mouse. So all I'm really bothered about is whether I get better value for money in terms of CPU and screen with the XPS compared with a thinkpad. Of course the XPS is prettier as well ;) I've read the XPS screen i…

Dont. I curse the day ive chosen 13” xps with 3200x1800 hdpi screen. Id trade it for fullhd in a blink. Three issues: 1. It is goddamn mirror, and mind you im not picky here 2. Hundreds of apps or system parts (regedit? Wtf?) are complettly messed up by hdpi and scaling leaves you either too small or problems. Keybase desktop client (search for my bug) shows what you can expect. Windows 10 can not handle it. Gnome wo…