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Is your username your real name? Just asking for your future employer.
I don't care. I enjoy being able to express my opinions and I only want to work for companies who support that.
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> The fact that it made some people uncomfortable shouldn't mean it shouldn't be discussed. On the contrary, I think that alone is sufficient reason. Its hard for me to go into detail about this right now. But as an employee working with other people, one must be aware of the effect one's actions and words have on fellow coworkers. In this case, the correct approach would have been for him to perhaps engage with a sm…
> Depending on the feedback, he could have change the wording to be perhaps more appropriate, and engaged in an honest conversation with HR. This is terribly naive. HR is there to protect the company, and it's PR image, not to have discussions with you, you're not the one paying them money.
I am aware of HR's role in the company. Regardless of whos paying them money, there are usually people in HR genuinely interested in making the workplace better. And if not, still better to try that than to write a manifesto and post it for everyone in the company to see.
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Jealous after bailing after six months? Are you sure it’s not pity? How many times have you quit in a row?
I'm almost 30, the longest company I worked for was almost 2 years; it was a startup and they're doing very well now - I would have stayed even longer but I wanted to move to Europe. Other than that I never stayed longer than 6 months at a company and I'm really glad because most of these companies were stagnant or failed. I've quit my job probably about 10 times now. Employers don't care at all how often you change…
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It's disturbing to me how many people here seem to be okay with executives and higher-ups expressing grief over the results of an election, in the office. I don't think that stuff has any place at work. It's a red-flag to me if that kind of thing is commonplace in the office. Not only is it distracting, but it's insulting to employees who may have an opposite position politically. If you're emotionally affected by so…
That's really something that surprised me a lot after moving to the US. In my culture, politics is very much like religion, it is unthinkable to talk about it openly in a place of work.
Working in NYC nobody ever mentions politics. I haven't even heard so much as an unkind word about Trump.
It doesn’t say anything about what it is to actually work at Google. Maybe rephrase to working in HR sucks. I doubt this person even worked at MTV. I worked at Google and it is an amazing place to work at (beercart Friday!) the only reason I left is because living in the Bay Area sucks.
>HR sucks Yes. >living in the Bay Area sucks Where'd you move to? I'm at the "trying out South Bay" stage, next I'm going to try downtown SF but after that I'm curious where people generally go. I was considering Vietnam and doing the remote work thing.
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It's impossible for every job task that needs to be done to always be interesting and fulfilling, even engineering jobs. Sometimes there's dirty work that had to be done that just sucks, and someone has to be paid to do it. My point is, if I advertise a job to clean toilets, don't show up and complain that cleaning toilets is boring. I know its boring, but I have to paid someone to do it, or buy self-cleaning Japanes…
Right, but you specifically called out someone as "not having the skills as a SWE."
It would be no different than if I went to work at a Hospital, I'd end up in claims processing or administration probably, and someone could say "he's not a doctor or nurse or medically trained, so of course, he's pushing paper"
To some extent, it's up to you to make your job interesting and fulfilling. If this guy spent 2 years doing HR and it was a grind, then he knew all the pain points and probably how to improve the workflow. Why didn't he take the initiative, get some coworkers together, and try to design a better system rather than wear earplugs eating alone in the cafe?
Google expects and depends on people to take initiative. If my project is not interesting, either I find another team that has a more interesting project, or I invent a project for myself and shop it to cosigners. I'm not supposed to sit here stewing in unhappiness for years waiting for my manager to say "oh, I noticed you aren't being fulfilled. Here's a new project to fulfill you."
It's not that only SWEs matter. Most startups have a technical founder and a non-technical founder. Non-technical skills often matter more than technical ones.
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>immigrants You missed the "::cough:: illegal ::cough::" Otherwise, please cite a video/audio source of him actually saying he wants to kick out all the legal immigrants.
“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12... Trump's threats were far from contained to illegal immigrants.
I am no Trump fan, but you have failed to do this. Temporarily (or indefinitely) curbing a specific subset of legal immigration is not equivalent to deporting people already in the country.
Does anyone seriously listen to that kind of talk? It's a job - in this case helping to sell advertising - why try to pretend it's some kind of religious calling? Why do so many companies insist on spewing that claptrap?
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Right, but you specifically called out someone as "not having the skills as a SWE."
I didn't mean it in the sense "he is inferior to SWEs", I mean it from the sense that Google is a tech company, and at tech companies, the interesting jobs where new product development happens generally goes to engineers, PMs, product and UI designers. It would be no different than if I went to work at a Hospital, I'd end up in claims processing or administration probably, and someone could say "he's not a doctor or…
That may not have been your intent, but that was how it came across.
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>HR sucks Yes. >living in the Bay Area sucks Where'd you move to? I'm at the "trying out South Bay" stage, next I'm going to try downtown SF but after that I'm curious where people generally go. I was considering Vietnam and doing the remote work thing.
I went back to Europe and live in Switzerland now. Much happier here than there.