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Introducing Surface Book 2

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Does the iPad Pro work similarly to either of those?

The iPad Pro is better than the Surface in terms of the digitizer, but not as good as Wacom.

Where did you hear this? From my personal experience and watching some youtube reviews from concept artists/illustrators, the Pencil beats Wacom hands down.

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$ 99.99 for the ____ing pen?

I get that the Surface Book is supposed to be a high-end device, but that is ... far out.

Still, as much as I dislike most of their software, I have to admit Microsoft knows how to build some neat hardware. If only it weren't so pricey...

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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After reading through the product announcement I had to chuckle a bit... If you'll pardon the shameless plug, I just purchased a used Lenovo X230 Tablet (ThinkPad) a couple weeks ago and my bet is that for the average HN reader use case it scratches all the same itches as the Surface Book. Granted it's bulkier and slower, but it's about $2300 cheaper.

On the other hand it's easily repaired and upgraded, and has an easily swapped battery, so you can bring a couple spares along on a trip. The Surface Book obviously targets the "creative" market, but as long as you spend most of your time in a terminal, an editor, or a web browser, and have an occasional need for a pen and touch screen, then the old Lenovo ThinkPad tablets are awesome.

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> The opposite isn't true. Sure you can. I've gotten macos installed in a vm and even ran a hackintosh for a while which was remarkably easy these days.

No it is not. It is not officially supported nor there is strong community support. When people like myself want for work, i want something 100% , I cannot explain it to my supervisor:”naaah, my hackintosh required a little bit of maintenance, so that’s why I submitted the paper late”.

Fair enough. Although I’ve had just as many issues running Windows in boot camp.

I do realllly wish Apple would open up and let us officially install on different hardware - especially if they’re only going to update the Mac pros every few years.

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It certainly feels like Mac OS is stuck in in-between land with iOS and OS X and it just feels a mess if your on a desktop with no track pad. The scroll bars are not mouse friendly. Windows 10 seems so much more stable and modern to Mac OS for the last two years. One job I use a Macbook and the OS just drives me nuts. The lack of decent short cuts drives is mind boggling.

You can use the Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad. Not sure what you mean by "last of decent short cuts," OS X is pretty keyboard friendly. Maybe just unfamiliarity?

I've search they are not there (Oh there are TWO different shortcuts based on your keyboard??????)) http://www.noproblemmac.com/blog/2015/05/21/how-to-always-ge...

Go to Desktop (This is stupid it is Fn + F11 OR Command F3 based on what keyboard you have) Also Win - D makes a lot more sense! It is a default motion on a track pad.

File Manager - Windows (Win - E) Mac OS NOTHING

I have never seen why Mac OS gets a pass by so many people when there are clear paper cuts in its interface and it gets worse and worse over the past 10 years.

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$ 99.99 for the ____ing pen? I get that the Surface Book is supposed to be a high-end device, but that is ... far out. Still, as much as I dislike most of their software, I have to admit Microsoft knows how to build some neat hardware. If only it weren't so pricey...

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I can't even count the times they say Macbook Pro... Can't they just let the product shine by itself instead of trying to make the competition look bad? Do they really need to get that low? Don't get me wrong, I dislike 99% of apple products, but it makes the entire ad just awful...

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It certainly feels like Mac OS is stuck in in-between land with iOS and OS X and it just feels a mess if your on a desktop with no track pad. The scroll bars are not mouse friendly. Windows 10 seems so much more stable and modern to Mac OS for the last two years. One job I use a Macbook and the OS just drives me nuts. The lack of decent short cuts drives is mind boggling.

You can use the Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad. Not sure what you mean by "last of decent short cuts," OS X is pretty keyboard friendly. Maybe just unfamiliarity?

This.

I like that the Mac uses the Super key for common shortcuts, which frees the control key for Emacs-style keybindings. It seems that besides i3, no other popular desktop environments allows a similar setup. I am a Mac convert after I start writing code seriously and as much as I still like Windows, I can't go back because of this.

As much as I also love Linux (I know, I love all 3 major OS for different reasons), I cannot use it as my full time desktop OS for obvious reasons. MacOS currently represents a perfect trade-off for me.

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