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Introducing Surface Book 2

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Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by mey »

AlphaWeaver wrote: post #133
staticelf wrote: post #94

So many negative comments just because it's Microsoft. If you don't like the OS, obviously this machine is not for you. Personally I think it looks nice, but I have a Surface Pro 2 that works just perfectly fine and I love it. The hardware on it is still good and I don't see any reason to upgrade.

I think that in itself speaks to the quality of the Surface device line... I myself have the first Surface Book, and I will likely upgrade to the 2 at some point, but not because my current device doesn't serve me well... I'm glad this thing is still working like new and I don't have huge urges to upgrade because I suddenly feel inferior, like some other tech companies try to pull... EDIT: Don't work for MS, just a h…

In the same boat, I love my Surface book. The primary reason I would upgrade is for i7 and 16 gb at this point. At this point the price to replace a system that is working great I can't justify.

As a result I will probably upgrade to the SB2 in a few years and still be very happy.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by usaphp »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #114

Whenever I fly on business with my macbook/lenovo I am super jealous of surface users, because they can use their machine during take off, as it's classified as a tablet when folded over. Seems minor but it's annoying when you're stuck looking at some crappy tv show or movie for an hour on each flight.

But can you do any real work in a folded mode, unless you are a graphic designer or something.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by dm319 »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #114

Whenever I fly on business with my macbook/lenovo I am super jealous of surface users, because they can use their machine during take off, as it's classified as a tablet when folded over. Seems minor but it's annoying when you're stuck looking at some crappy tv show or movie for an hour on each flight.

Maybe treat yourself to the Thinkpad X1 Yoga gen 2?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by bpicolo »

darklajid wrote: post #82

Looks not too bad, but I'm kinda interested in a Ryzen based laptop. And for that .. there's basically nothing yet (a Lenovo that is based on ~outdated~ tech just came out, a HP is announced and seems limited in its RAM options/potentially limited to single-channel and crippling the APU and a monster of a gaming laptop with desktop CPUs that is basically not usable if you ever want to carry it or use it without a pow…

Ryzen chips for laptops don't exist yet, though they're working on it. https://liliputing.com/2017/10/amd-ryzen-chips-laptops-comin...

Looks like HP will have a ryzen-based laptop, though there's no telling how the chip will compare to the desktop variant

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by shams93 »

Yeah ultimately the os itself has it's limitations, I get more done on a Thinkpad 420 I picked up refurbed for $300 with Ubuntu instead of windows 10 pro. I can run systemd daemons on Ubuntu but trying to run services like postgresql on windows subsystem for Linux is painful with no daemon support it's like a crippled Linux.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by reboog711 »

rhexs wrote: post #69
kanishkdudeja wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What issues did you face?

A better question is, what issues didn't I face? Unlocking randomly wouldn't work, the display driver was crashing when using firefox/chrome consistently, battery life was abysmal, device would bluescreen, etc. From what I understand they finally patched most of these out after more than a year. No need to go on that roller coaster again.

I got my unit on initial release, so have had it for roughly 2 years. It was hit or miss for the first 3 months, but various updates solved all the issues.

It's been running like champ ever since.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by kanishkdudeja »

shams93 wrote: post #165

Yeah ultimately the os itself has it's limitations, I get more done on a Thinkpad 420 I picked up refurbed for $300 with Ubuntu instead of windows 10 pro. I can run systemd daemons on Ubuntu but trying to run services like postgresql on windows subsystem for Linux is painful with no daemon support it's like a crippled Linux.

You can use Docker or Vagrant on Windows

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by landr0id »

markcmyers wrote: post #146
skywhopper wrote: post #66

This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

As a former advertising executive, I can tell you what the problem is here. The writer and his boss who approved the copy aren't addressing the customer, they're addressing the boss's boss. In a dysfunctional organization like Microsoft, communicating up rather than out is how you get promoted. It's a rare Microsoft employee who moves up the ladder by thinking about the customer.

Well in fairness, the link points to the Windows blog. The actual marketing page should probably be the link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book...

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by dm319 »

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #60
inetknght wrote: post #55

Can I wipe out Windows and put a better OS on it?

You could try out Hackintosh/Linux but not sure how compatible would it be in the beginning. Issues will need to be tinkered with and fixed.

Yes, and there isn't a great history with getting surface's to work well with linux - though I think things are much better now. Still, probably much easier than getting linux on it than a macbook pro.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by darklajid »

bpicolo wrote: post #164
darklajid wrote: post #82

Looks not too bad, but I'm kinda interested in a Ryzen based laptop. And for that .. there's basically nothing yet (a Lenovo that is based on ~outdated~ tech just came out, a HP is announced and seems limited in its RAM options/potentially limited to single-channel and crippling the APU and a monster of a gaming laptop with desktop CPUs that is basically not usable if you ever want to carry it or use it without a pow…

Ryzen chips for laptops don't exist yet, though they're working on it. https://liliputing.com/2017/10/amd-ryzen-chips-laptops-comin... Looks like HP will have a ryzen-based laptop, though there's no telling how the chip will compare to the desktop variant

See the other thread - I already linked to the HP one (that's the one that might have the single-channel flaw/fault).

Lenovo seems to have an offer available today - for about a month now. With .. other issues.

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