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Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by fhood »

TheCoreh wrote: post #13
kanishkdudeja wrote: post #8

The i5 variant comes with just 8 GB RAM. Would have considered if they had given an option for 16 GB RAM. Being a developer, 8 GB seems tight these days! 15-inch 16 GB variant comes with i7 but the price is a little too steep (starts from 2500 USD)

To be fair, if you're developer, you'll probably also want an i7 (since a lot of compilation tasks are highly parallel and the extra cores will help a lot)

I never compile on my own machine, but I can tell you that if I can't have 30 chrome tabs open at once we are going to have a problem.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by disconnected »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #96
trothamel wrote: post #12

A bit of headline fail there: "Introducing Surface Book 2, the most powerful Surface Book ever" Out of the two of them so far?

Who wants to wager that the Surface Book 3 won't be even more powerful than the Surface Book 2?

I'll wait for Surface Book 3.11 for Workgroups.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by skywhopper »

masklinn wrote: post #76
skywhopper wrote: post #66

This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

Yeah it's really frustrating. * this page is an ad copy with very little of interest * the store page ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-book-2/8MCPZ... ) has no date, no price and only hints at specs (you can pick a model but have no idea that e.g. the 13.5" i5 is iGP and the i7 is dGPU) * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book... has the actual stuff you want, with a detailed sp…

Oh, cool, thanks for pointing me to the actual prices.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by agmcleod »

pier25 wrote: post #73
Jaqua wrote: post #21

Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

I tried to switch to Windows for work (for gaming it's the obvious choice) but I just couldn't. Windows 10 is IMO the best Windows ever, but I was surprised that the ecosystem was really poor compared to macOS. Most of the software you find online are outdated win32 apps with scaling problems. Even modern software from major companies still has scaling problems such as Adobe CC or even the mighty Photoshop. I also di…

agreed. I have a gaming PC at home, as well as a separate gaming laptop that I use for events. I've tried coding on it, and it's just not as good. Little things like the apps you mentioned I miss. Soulver, text expander, proper twitter clients, spotlight, brew.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by Sujan »

masklinn wrote: post #76
skywhopper wrote: post #66

This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

Yeah it's really frustrating. * this page is an ad copy with very little of interest * the store page ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-book-2/8MCPZ... ) has no date, no price and only hints at specs (you can pick a model but have no idea that e.g. the 13.5" i5 is iGP and the i7 is dGPU) * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book... has the actual stuff you want, with a detailed sp…

Now I wish I hadn't found the prices...

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by darklajid »

digi_owl wrote: post #88
darklajid wrote: post #82

Looks not too bad, but I'm kinda interested in a Ryzen based laptop. And for that .. there's basically nothing yet (a Lenovo that is based on ~outdated~ tech just came out, a HP is announced and seems limited in its RAM options/potentially limited to single-channel and crippling the APU and a monster of a gaming laptop with desktop CPUs that is basically not usable if you ever want to carry it or use it without a pow…

I don't think there are laptop Ryzen variants out yet, thus the only "laptops" that exist use desktop Ryzen variants and are squarely aimed at gamers.

Lenovo A475[1] is using a mobile version afaict. Unfortunately .. it's based on Bristol.

HP Envy x360 [2] seems to come out ~soon~ based on Raven, but the outlets/the community seems concerned that they'll limit those to single-channel. Which according to reviews in the past severely cripples the whole setup. That said, details aren't out so maybe HP does the right thing..

So potentially two options I'm aware of, one flawed and one potentially flawed.

The only other one I found was a (gaming) monster from ASUS that is not a laptop in my world..

1: HK link, sorry for that: https://www3.lenovo.com/hk/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-a-se...

2: German link, sorry for that: https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10/raven-ridge-hp-notebook-...

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by zimpenfish »

ksec wrote: post #75
rayiner wrote: post #17

The pricing is brutal.[1] About $100-$300 more than the 15" Macbook Pro with the same amount of storage. The base model is particularly shameful, with only 8GB of RAM. The base MBP is 16GB for $100 less. You can't configure the RAM amount, so $2,900 is the cheapest 15" model with 16GB. [1] Or perhaps it's more that the configuration options are really inflexible, with every configuration having the highest-end CPU an…

Basically you are paying for a better CPU, you get the option of Intel's 8th Gen CPU..... and Nvidia GPU, arguably better then one offered by Apple. I just wish Apple will make their own Metal GPU for Mac. At least then I know the GPU will be best at something Apple designed to do.

> I just wish Apple will make their own Metal GPU for Mac.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/23/apple-power-vr-imaginati...

"The A11 Bionic chip inside Apple's new iPhone 8 series and upcoming iPhone X is the company's first-ever self-designed GPU."

I should imagine it's only a matter of time.

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