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Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by reeddavid »

foobaw wrote: post #45

How does your company manage to use Stripe and Paypal for microtransactions with their fees? Do you get a special discount? 25 cents - minus fees means there's barely any left.

Paypal offers a separate fee structure for micropayments:

PayPal's micropayments price is 5% + $.05 and is designed for merchants who process low-value transactions (typically under $10 in value). The micropayments rate is available to all merchants and in all countries where Business accounts are available. If you sign up for micropayments, you will be charged the micropayments rate on all transactions regardless of payment size.

From PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/us/selfhelp/article/what-are-micropay...

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by voiper1 »

sdrothrock wrote: post #51

Any plans for an API to make it possible to upload and send a fax from a web app? This looks exactly like what we've been looking for for a while. Also, how does your pricing vary by country, if at all? I know some providers (e.g. HelloFax) charge WAY more for our target country (Japan).

phaxio has an API -- 7c/page to USA and 10c to other countries. Japan is included as a 10cent destination.

https://www.phaxio.com/pricing/

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by abbasaamer »

Cool! I use one of your competitors, Fax Fresh. One thing I like about them is that they clearly state they delete the fax from their servers once it's sent. I couldn't find such a statement in your privacy policy (though maybe I missed it). Can you elaborate on what happens to my fax after it's sent? Is it deleted from your server?

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by ac29 »

interfixus wrote: post #52

No snark, I'm genuinely surprised: Does anyone still use faxes anywhere on the planet? I sent my last fax twelve years ago, and considered that a retrograde outlier. Some agency requiring a signed piece of paper, not accepting my emailed pdf with a pasted in scrawl, but all roses and thank you, sir when same document uploaded to a random webservice and faxed. I do occasionally give up on Humanity.

> Does anyone still use faxes anywhere on the planet?

Japan: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/14/world/asia/in-japan-the-fa...

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by ac29 »

So, if you send 1 short fax/week (@ $1 for 1-4 pages), your breakeven point just buying a fax machine ($30-50 for entry level on Amazon, new) is less than a year?

I work for a business that could use a low-volume faxing service, but the price needs to come down an order of magnitude.

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by psquid »

ac29 wrote: post #65

So, if you send 1 short fax/week (@ $1 for 1-4 pages), your breakeven point just buying a fax machine ($30-50 for entry level on Amazon, new) is less than a year? I work for a business that could use a low-volume faxing service, but the price needs to come down an order of magnitude.

The lack of subscription and signup, combined with the pricing, suggest that this is aiming at people who almost never send a fax, and would spend significantly more buying and maintaining a fax machine, compared to a couple dollars on this service.

I do hope you find a service that fits your need, but this is very likely not intending to be it.

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by fomojola »

abbasaamer wrote: post #63

Cool! I use one of your competitors, Fax Fresh. One thing I like about them is that they clearly state they delete the fax from their servers once it's sent. I couldn't find such a statement in your privacy policy (though maybe I missed it). Can you elaborate on what happens to my fax after it's sent? Is it deleted from your server?

Ah, we do delete the file as soon as the fax is confirmed as delivered: its in our FAQ at https://www.faxrocket.com/faq.html. We will update the privacy policy to include a reference to that.

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by ac29 »

psquid wrote: post #66
ac29 wrote: post #65

So, if you send 1 short fax/week (@ $1 for 1-4 pages), your breakeven point just buying a fax machine ($30-50 for entry level on Amazon, new) is less than a year? I work for a business that could use a low-volume faxing service, but the price needs to come down an order of magnitude.

The lack of subscription and signup, combined with the pricing, suggest that this is aiming at people who almost never send a fax, and would spend significantly more buying and maintaining a fax machine, compared to a couple dollars on this service. I do hope you find a service that fits your need, but this is very likely not intending to be it.

Right, but is it a viable business if the average customer spends $1-2/year or less?

A business phone line ($100/month or less -- crap tier VOIP lines work fine for faxes) and a PCI fax/modem (<$50) should let you send hundreds of pages an hour with no paper or other consumables. It certainly seems like a send-only service that charges $0.01/page is more than viable. Even averaging only a page a minute would be $15/day in revenue, a huge profit margin.

Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by [deleted] »

ac29 wrote: post #68
psquid wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of subscription and signup, combined with the pricing, suggest that this is aiming at people who almost never send a fax, and would spend significantly more buying and maintaining a fax machine, compared to a couple dollars on this service. I do hope you find a service that fits your need, but this is very likely not intending to be it.

Right, but is it a viable business if the average customer spends $1-2/year or less? A business phone line ($100/month or less -- crap tier VOIP lines work fine for faxes) and a PCI fax/modem (<$50) should let you send hundreds of pages an hour with no paper or other consumables. It certainly seems like a send-only service that charges $0.01/page is more than viable. Even averaging only a page a minute would be $15/d…

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Re: Show HN: Send a fax to 50 countries, no signup, account or subscription required

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Post by ebrandell »

ac29 wrote: post #65

So, if you send 1 short fax/week (@ $1 for 1-4 pages), your breakeven point just buying a fax machine ($30-50 for entry level on Amazon, new) is less than a year? I work for a business that could use a low-volume faxing service, but the price needs to come down an order of magnitude.

Have to agree, despite the ease of use.
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