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Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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Re: Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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Random thoughts:

- Freedom and democracy are different things, if some people think democracy isn't that important, it does not mean they do not value freedom.

- Maybe the millenials are "not open to diverse opinions", but maybe they're just sick of bullshit. "Free Speech" can be interpreted in different ways (and each country in the world does that).

Re: Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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In our increasingly litigious and regulated society they've never experienced it.

Most likely that is not the cause. They have been sheltered and kept from any form of adversity or harm. They are like zoo animals released back into the wild, they have no idea how to live without their cage.

Re: Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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post #3

Random thoughts: - Freedom and democracy are different things, if some people think democracy isn't that important, it does not mean they do not value freedom. - Maybe the millenials are "not open to diverse opinions", but maybe they're just sick of bullshit. "Free Speech" can be interpreted in different ways (and each country in the world does that).

Being sick of bullshit is fine. Having the government regulate bull-shitting is a huge step towards tyranny.

Re: Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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In the US at any rate you need a fairly significant amount of disposable income to meaningfully be free. Of course you are "free" to (attempt to) acquire this income, and most people reading HN will have already done so. But for a large swath of young people working low wage jobs, living at home because they can't afford rent, the notion of "freedom" might not seem that significant.

Re: Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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post #3

Random thoughts: - Freedom and democracy are different things, if some people think democracy isn't that important, it does not mean they do not value freedom. - Maybe the millenials are "not open to diverse opinions", but maybe they're just sick of bullshit. "Free Speech" can be interpreted in different ways (and each country in the world does that).

Being sick of bullshit is fine. Having the government regulate bull-shitting is a huge step towards tyranny.

What is one example of the government regulating free speech through law in the last 10 years?

Re: Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being sick of bullshit is fine. Having the government regulate bull-shitting is a huge step towards tyranny.

What is one example of the government regulating free speech through law in the last 10 years?

Here's one (PT though)

https://www.dn.pt/portugal/interior/piropos-ja-sao-crime-e-d...

Translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev...

Re: Why Are Millennials Wary of Freedom?

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post #7

In the US at any rate you need a fairly significant amount of disposable income to meaningfully be free. Of course you are "free" to (attempt to) acquire this income, and most people reading HN will have already done so. But for a large swath of young people working low wage jobs, living at home because they can't afford rent, the notion of "freedom" might not seem that significant.

How much disposable income do you need to be free? Cheap car, cheap rent, every form of media ever for about $50 a month. You can do that easily on 30k. If you can't make 30k a year, you've got a limited skillset, it's not anyone else's fault.

What's amazing for US millenials in particular is just how much we've got and how little we appreciate it.

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