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New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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I’m a big proponent of mass transit and when it’s available I use it if I can. But I can get Lyft door to door for just $1-2 more than a bus or train. If mass transit wants to keep with rideshare and livery they need to: expand routes, increase availability, update their equipment. When I was a kid I knew how to read a bus schedule and train map to plan my trip. Now, there is an entire generation of kids in school an…

> expand routes, increase availability, update their equipment.

... and be faster. The SFMTA in San Francisco , at an average travel speed of 5 miles / hour. Is only slightly faster than brisk walking. Also, from the downtown FiDi out 2 miles in every direction, the Bus has a bus stop at Every block. Yes, every block.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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post #17

my car was out of commission for a while. i found that to get to work, the only bus route available was a 1.5 hour slog (one way)...and that's if i arrived at the bus stop right on time to minimize waiting. taking lyft was a 15 minute ride, max. losing (at least) 3 hours to transit is brutal.

Well, yes, you always take the personal car, first time you check out the transit schedule is when it's broken.. surprise, you will wake up finding there is no good bus transit!

I wonder how that came to be. If Lyft is 15 minutes you could just as well bike.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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or on the flip side of it, perhaps in a city like NYC, yellow taxi cabs are the cause of major traffic, especially when they are just driving around looking for passengers, slowing down at corners where they may pick someone up, lining up near hotels, carrying only one group of passengers at a time, etc. Or construction vehicles and road blockages have added traffic to major cities - many of which appear to be undergoing a construction boom. And while I'm a proponent of mass transit, id argue that large buses- too large to navigate city streets especially when it comes to making turns - are a cause for major traffic in the city. They should be replaced by services like Via.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Congestion pricing for use of city streets would quickly solve any problems due to increased use.

Absolutely. Space on the street is a valuable, limited resource, especially at peak times. And it should be priced accordingly. We also need competition in bus service, not government-run, subsidized monopolies. Then we'd see many more transportation options. We should look at how these problems are solved in other countries. Or all of the innovation we had here in the US when cars first became practical, before the…

> We also need competition in bus service, not government-run, subsidized monopolies. Then we'd see many more transportation options.

No local transportation system in America covers its operating costs using fare revenue. Most local bus agencies in America only cover about 20% of opex with fares; the best agencies (e.g. BART) might get to 70%. This doesn't even consider capital costs.

Good luck getting a private entity to run a charity service. Local transportation is not a profitable endeavor and never has been.

> We should look at how these problems are solved in other countries.

Hint: it's not because the great Euro and Asian cities have competition. Only a handful like Tokyo have competing systems.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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post #18

I’m a big proponent of mass transit and when it’s available I use it if I can. But I can get Lyft door to door for just $1-2 more than a bus or train. If mass transit wants to keep with rideshare and livery they need to: expand routes, increase availability, update their equipment. When I was a kid I knew how to read a bus schedule and train map to plan my trip. Now, there is an entire generation of kids in school an…

You make a good point here, and mass transit has done the square root of bugger all to improve accessibility for a new generation.

For example: I live in the countryside and want to get a bus into town. Fair enough but sometimes the buses run late, and sometimes they run really late - like half an hour plus. I often don't have that kind of time to waste, especially not if it means standing or sitting around in the rain. Moreover, it makes the timetable a work of fiction, and in that case what's the point of the timetable[1]? The truth is that in many cases I couldn't really care less about the bus timetable: what I want to know is when the bus I need is going to get here, and I'd like to be able to track its location to help with that.

Be great if there was an app for that, but sadly there isn't (not where I live, anyway). I have a feeling the Swiss Post buses might support that, but I could be imagining it. Thing is, it's not very start-uppable as a concept: you need partnerships with any bus companies involved, you need GPS equipment in the buses, you need parternships with cell networks and good enough coverage that location and ancillary information can be sent back to base to be served up through the app, etc.

In town the bus stops have those TfL style boards that tell you how long until the next bus arrives and where it's going but, of course, you still have to go to the bus stop to get that information.

[1] Timetables do become more important when you have to make changes, or use multiple forms of transport and make them dovetail together, so I'm not actually advocating that they be dumped.

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