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Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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> Though Tesla cited performance as the reason for the firings, the source told Reuters he was fired in spite of never having been given a bad review.

Highly odd for a company that's just starting production of its highest-volume product ever.

Is there something about Tesla beyond the hype we should know? If I were an investor, this news would have me quite concerned.

You would think they can't hire fast enough.

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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It’s interesing that the company can just decide not to report this as a mass layoff. While the performance reasons for letting someone go may be true, it seems like an easily exploitable loophole. Model 3 production rates were missed by a wide margin, so at least a few people should have known that management would react.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retrai...

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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"Tesla has a hearing before the National Labor Relations Board in November for charges that company supervisors and security guards harassed workers distributing union literature. Tesla denied the accusations. Openly pro-union workers were among those fired this week. Some believe they were targeted." - Local paper http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/13/4819750/ Edit: Added more lines from the preceding paragraph

> pro-union workers were among those fired this week. Some believe they were targeted I hate sneakily-worded sentences like this. Also among them, were women, hetrosexuals, and probably one or two Vietnam veterans. Some believe they were targetted.

My rule of thumb is to give benefit of doubt to weaker sections.

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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post #8

It’s interesing that the company can just decide not to report this as a mass layoff. While the performance reasons for letting someone go may be true, it seems like an easily exploitable loophole. Model 3 production rates were missed by a wide margin, so at least a few people should have known that management would react.

Do public company actually have an obligation to report mass layoffs?

Yes, it's the WARN act:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

California also has their own version: https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/tools-and-samples/hr-...

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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post #8

It’s interesing that the company can just decide not to report this as a mass layoff. While the performance reasons for letting someone go may be true, it seems like an easily exploitable loophole. Model 3 production rates were missed by a wide margin, so at least a few people should have known that management would react.

Do public company actually have an obligation to report mass layoffs?

For qualifying situations

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retrai...

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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post #8

It’s interesing that the company can just decide not to report this as a mass layoff. While the performance reasons for letting someone go may be true, it seems like an easily exploitable loophole. Model 3 production rates were missed by a wide margin, so at least a few people should have known that management would react.

Do public company actually have an obligation to report mass layoffs?

Yes. By law, they have to report it, esp in CA

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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post #11

> Though Tesla cited performance as the reason for the firings, the source told Reuters he was fired in spite of never having been given a bad review. Highly odd for a company that's just starting production of its highest-volume product ever. Is there something about Tesla beyond the hype we should know? If I were an investor, this news would have me quite concerned. You would think they can't hire fast enough.

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Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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To give a scale, Tesla has more than 30 000 employees [1]. That is just a little above 1%. [1] https://electrek.co/2017/06/01/tesla-elon-musk-employees-har...

Yea seems like the more interesting title/angle for the article would be "Tesla misses model3 production by 5-6x", rather than "Tesla fires 1% of workforce".

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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post #8

It’s interesing that the company can just decide not to report this as a mass layoff. While the performance reasons for letting someone go may be true, it seems like an easily exploitable loophole. Model 3 production rates were missed by a wide margin, so at least a few people should have known that management would react.

Do public company actually have an obligation to report mass layoffs?

Per Chapter 4, Part 4, Sections 1400-1408 of the Labor Code, WARN protects employees, their families, and communities by requiring that employers give a 60-day notice to the affected employees and both state and local representatives prior to a plant closing or mass layoff.

http://www.edd.ca.gov/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WARN...

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