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Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

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Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

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I feel like this has to do with Equifax basically not being punished in any major way over the last breach. Their stocks are still priced reasonably well, most of their board is still intact, and US citizens are still required to work with them for credit reasons. And the worst part is, I have no idea how I as a person could say "I don't want to do work with Equifax because I don't trust them." And if anybody has sug…

"Too big to fail"

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

#22

it's amazing how much the finance industry can get away with. like honest-to-goodness amazing. it's really impressive how these people can have such a death-grip on society. honestly, i'm more curious than mad. how is such a thing even possible? i mean, wow.

The finance industry as a whole spends a few billion dollars on lobbying. They spend the most on lobbying compared to every other sector. imo this is one of the things the tech industry hasn't fully optimized yet

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

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I feel like this has to do with Equifax basically not being punished in any major way over the last breach. Their stocks are still priced reasonably well, most of their board is still intact, and US citizens are still required to work with them for credit reasons. And the worst part is, I have no idea how I as a person could say "I don't want to do work with Equifax because I don't trust them." And if anybody has sug…

freeze your credit report with Equifax, and then if any company requests it, they'll be denied (because you have to request it be unfrozen for them to receive it). If any company uses Equifax, you'll then be denied credit or they'll ask you to unfreeze it.. either way, you can complain to them, and make it clear you won't work with Equifax. Of course, in practice, this will mean you'll get denied credit from any comp…

Unfortunately you have no way to protect your tax returns from Equifax, which now has a contract with the IRS thanks to the infinite wisdom of our government.

http://fortune.com/2017/10/04/equifax-irs-contract-hackers/

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

#24

it's amazing how much the finance industry can get away with. like honest-to-goodness amazing. it's really impressive how these people can have such a death-grip on society. honestly, i'm more curious than mad. how is such a thing even possible? i mean, wow.

Because of our corrupt banking system and the politicians in bed with them.

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

#25

it's amazing how much the finance industry can get away with. like honest-to-goodness amazing. it's really impressive how these people can have such a death-grip on society. honestly, i'm more curious than mad. how is such a thing even possible? i mean, wow.

Well, these guys are simply too big to fail. Equifax cannot go bust, otherwise loads of consumer credit (mortgages, car loans etc) would freeze up, causing huge harm to the economy.

The market likely knows this, hence the stable stock price.

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

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Something's doesn't sound quite right over at Equifax, I would have thought that with the scale of the last breach a full and thorough audit of all existing systems would have been a major priority!

>I would have thought that with the scale of the last breach a full and thorough audit of all existing systems would have been a major priority!

Why would you think that? Equifax hasn't suffered for its poor security - you have. Indeed, Equifax was rewarded with a massive IRS contract for its malfeasance. Its very much like what we see in the banking sector, where even when the banks get caught stealing, at worse they are fined only a fraction of what they stole, leaving them with a hefty profit. That's what crony-capitalism looks like. Why would Equifax or any other corporation change their very profitable business practices if they don't suffer any downside for their wrongdoing?

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a normal, slow moving, bureaucratic corporation. But even if they were faster, I'm sure an audit of all existing systems is not as simple as making sure all the doors and windows are locked around the house.

You can hire a good group of independent pen testers or security companies, and let them hammer your public facing sites. They don't lack the necessary financial resources. At least they would have discovered that type of problems. It's not difficult when there's a will.

Knowing your vulnerabilities, fixing them, and caring about them at all are all different things.

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

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The incompetence is mindblowing. Could this be a good argument for software engineers to get their professional license?

It seems abundantly clear that Equifax's incompetence is _systemic_. Under the presumption that they could have hired better engineers, I fully believe they would have managed them into submission.

I'd be amazed if the average/combined skill level of engineers at any large company exceeds the average/combined skill level of the people trying to compromise its security.

And that's not taking into account the bureaucratic overhead necessary to make changes in such an environment. There are very good, and very bad, reasons why upgrading insecure software and fixing other security holes takes too much time and effort.

Equifax just happens to be a very attractive target. I don't know how any such target can stay truly safe.

(Having said that, they clearly screwed the pooch in a lot of ways, so I won't shed a tear if they're dismantled.)

Re: Equifax takes down web page after reports of new hack

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I feel like this has to do with Equifax basically not being punished in any major way over the last breach. Their stocks are still priced reasonably well, most of their board is still intact, and US citizens are still required to work with them for credit reasons. And the worst part is, I have no idea how I as a person could say "I don't want to do work with Equifax because I don't trust them." And if anybody has sug…

I would argue that having a single occurrence of a hack, isolated, seems unlikely.

If a site got hacked, chances are they suck at security - and then subsequent hacks are actually more likely to happen over the near future.

It takes time to turn corporate culture around, and security depends a lot on culture.

Would be great to see some statistics that would either support or disprove my assertion.

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