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Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by Eridrus »

keypusher wrote: post #52

> File-sharing giant Dropbox has signed the biggest lease in San Francisco history, an agreement for 736,000 square feet, the entirety of a new office complex under construction in the southwest corner of Mission Bay. [...] The space will represent an expansion for Dropbox, which occupies 182,000 square feet at 333 Brannan St., a building Kilroy also owns, as well as 115,000 square feet at 345 Brannan. Dropbox curren…

They can always sublease the space. Dropbox used to sublease their space from Coverity iirc.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by vnchr »

e40 wrote: post #150
vnchr wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're saying Dropbox is going to drop...into the ocean?

No, the landfilled earth will turn into a liquid, briefly, during a big earthquake and the buildings will sink into them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_liquefaction

So it’s going to sync?

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by tex12 »

a2tech wrote: post #54
garganzol wrote: post #35

This is just a file sync. A good one. But 1500 employees for that? This goes way beyond my imagination.

There’s a ton of stuff around that though. Tens of thousands of paying customers need support. Credit card teams. Data center guys. Guys to right deployment tools. Security guys to monitor the credit card system. Hacking together a proof of concept is simple, running a big business is complicated.

LOL, first/second tier tech support and data center guys should be nowhere near SF.

It is overkill!

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by sp332 »

wingerlang wrote: post #122
sp332 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just meant that if you use "Dropbox for teams" you can upload more than one TB of data. And you pay more, but by default the prices on that page are "billed yearly" for some reason.

Even just switching from yearly to monthly on his current plan would allow him to give them more money for what he's currently using. Yearly is $99 while monthly the same plan would be $120.

That doesn't help with "for more that 1tb storage".

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by gxs »

awad wrote: post #113

Inevitably, someone will make a comment about how Dropbox is overstaffed and could do this with ~10 employees since 'they just sync files'. To save you the trouble, consider that they also need to hire support, sales, marketing, and operations staff beyond the engineers and designers it takes to keep the product(s) running, especially as they shift into an enterprise-focused business.

Shake my head every time I see this as well.

The amount of work that goes into creating and selling a brand, running the actual business (selling, implementing, supporting), on top G&A, is way more than people realize.

On top of that, the amount of work that goes into raising money, preparing for IPO, etc. is also quite a lot.

That's before you get into building the actual product, developing the roadmap, working with product marketing, R&D, etc.

I run this issue especially when building software for parts of the business that aren't product - engineers are so condescending it's remarkable.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by ksec »

morganvachon wrote: post #73
chimtim wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) managing an office building is a lot of hassle. 2) startups are always growing or shrinking. no point putting so much significant capital unless it is an established in for a long haul at a location where talent is surplus. 3) if you indeed have that much capital, you can pretty much dictate what you want and get some tax benefits (amazon, second HQ) or work with a city build a new building suitable for your long-…

" the leasing company actually has limited leverage " This can be true even at the SMB level. My employer sees only a couple of million in revenue yearly, we lease our warehouse/office space and we have more or less free reign to make any non-structural changes. If we decide to clear out a corner of the warehouse to put in more office space, we can (and we have). We just have to pay for the materials and labor. We've…

It sort of depends. In most places on earth trying to keep the property leased is the basic principle. But Chinese has a funny culture where they would rather have it empty then to lower its prices, and even for a long period of time.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by omnimus »

kaishiro wrote: post #24

This is tangential, and I'm not a designer so this is just one dev's opinion, but I found Dropbox's latest rebrand (dropbox.design) to be a bizarre departure for them. It was so off the wall I just assumed it was some sort of parody site until I realized it was official. I'm in no place to determine if it's "good" or "bad", but it's certainly an...interesting direction, if nothing else.

I am print designer (not ui/ux startup designer) and most designers i know find the redesign sooo bad. It feels like they wanted to draw lot from fashion/art print scene (stuff like http://backcatalogue.co.uk/daily ) they picked similar typeface/style to one very trendy few years ago ( http://www.space-matters.com/ ) and well... they totaly failed.

Reasons might be ui/startup designers being pushed into territory they dont know. It might be management dumbing down "too cool" design. But overall it feels like strange hybrid without much energy or appeal.

But i applaud them for trying something new.

Only corp that manages to sucessfuly bring this kind of design approach is bloomberg. https://www.bloomberg.com/businessweek

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by omnimus »

disiplus wrote: post #10
linarism wrote: post #2

Good for them, I gladly pay the yearly fee for their service. Haven't had as much reliability with any other cloud storage service.

i think they are shooting themselfs in the foot, a month ago after my samsung promo expired i lost my 30gb of space. the only plan they have is 1TB for 8.25eur. my whole macbook drive is 512gb, and i dont like to waste something, so paying 1tb and using only 50 feels like im paying for all those using 1tb. so i switched to hosting owncloud on my downloadbox at home, the benefit is that i can access everything downloa…

With Transit (mac app) and some other ftp programs you can use dropbox just like normal network drive so you can upload stiff there and delete it from your computer.

With Arq you can do backups with versions (independent of db versions) there. It is useful if you want to have history of something.

What i am trying to say is that syncing is not only way how to use that 1TB.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by salqadri »

orb_yt wrote: post #90
salqadri wrote: post #47

Here is the original Dropbox YC application from 2007: https://www.ycombinator.com/apply/dropbox/

Is there a directory of these?

No this is the only one I am aware of. It is listed here as a sample application: https://www.ycombinator.com/howtoapply/

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Post by wingerlang »

sp332 wrote: post #154
wingerlang wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even just switching from yearly to monthly on his current plan would allow him to give them more money for what he's currently using. Yearly is $99 while monthly the same plan would be $120.

That doesn't help with "for more that 1tb storage".

Ah. I guess I read his comment as

>> "I wish I could pay them more for that 1tb storage.

And not his intended:

>> "I wish I could pay them more for more than 1tb storage."

(His mis-spelling of that/than was kinda confusing)

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