African American Vernacular English Is Not Standard English with Mistakes (1999) [pdf]
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Re: African American Vernacular English Is Not Standard English with Mistakes (1999) [pdf]
#2Languages change, evolve, and split into new languages. This has gone on forever- why would it stop now?
Re: African American Vernacular English Is Not Standard English with Mistakes (1999) [pdf]
#3Languages change, evolve, and split into new languages. This has gone on forever- why would it stop now?
It causes segregation based on race; Black people speak this language, white people speak this one. We're trying to bring these groups together, diving their language won't help at all.
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#4Languages change, evolve, and split into new languages. This has gone on forever- why would it stop now?
It causes segregation based on race; Black people speak this language, white people speak this one. We're trying to bring these groups together, diving their language won't help at all.
That seems like a very inflammatory statement. I doubt what most african americans want out of desegregation is their culture wiped out and replace with american white culture. The more apt solution would be to stop being prejudice towards other american subcultures.
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#5Languages change, evolve, and split into new languages. This has gone on forever- why would it stop now?
It causes segregation based on race; Black people speak this language, white people speak this one. We're trying to bring these groups together, diving their language won't help at all.
It causes segregation based on race
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Why isn't it a result of segregation?
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#6Languages change, evolve, and split into new languages. This has gone on forever- why would it stop now?
Right. I mean, is American English just British English with mistakes? Or is British English just Anglo-Frisian with mistakes?
Also, this is rather old news. Perhaps it was insightful, in its day.
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#7Languages change, evolve, and split into new languages. This has gone on forever- why would it stop now?
It causes segregation based on race; Black people speak this language, white people speak this one. We're trying to bring these groups together, diving their language won't help at all.
I'm from rural Arkansas, and from my perspective, the dialect that is spoken there shares more in common with AAVE than standard English.
The difference that I see is that I was expected to learn and speak standard English in a professional environment while the perception among my peers seems to be that those who natively speak AAVE expect their dialect to be accepted in all settings.
Note that I was careful to say that this is my perception of the expectations of others. My experience shows that native AAVE speakers adapt their language in professional circumstances in exactly the same way I adapt my own.
Re: African American Vernacular English Is Not Standard English with Mistakes (1999) [pdf]
#8Languages change, evolve, and split into new languages. This has gone on forever- why would it stop now?
It causes segregation based on race; Black people speak this language, white people speak this one. We're trying to bring these groups together, diving their language won't help at all.
It's also caused by segregation based on race. Fully integrated communities don't develop racially-linked dialects.
In any case, talking about whether or not it helps seems to be pointless. The dialect exists whether it's helpful or not. If it's an obstacle to bringing people together, then we need to figure out ways to overcome that obstacle, not wish it away.
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#9Am I understanding correctly that this paper is making the argument that because AAVE follows an identifiable set of grammatical rules, it is a dialect rather than an aberration?
I don't have any opinion on that, I just wanted to make sure I understood the basic premise.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
It causes segregation based on race; Black people speak this language, white people speak this one. We're trying to bring these groups together, diving their language won't help at all.
I'm from rural Arkansas, and from my perspective, the dialect that is spoken there shares more in common with AAVE than standard English. The difference that I see is that I was expected to learn and speak standard English in a professional environment while the perception among my peers seems to be that those who natively speak AAVE expect their dialect to be accepted in all settings. Note that I was careful to say…
Yeah, this. It's called "code switching" and we all do it. The way you talk to your boss is not the way you talk to your friends is not the way you talk to your Grandpa is not the way you talk on Facebook etc.