I can't help but feel that "Gluon" is only going to conflict with Gluons (The Bosonic particle)
Gluon – Deep Learning API from AWS and Microsoft
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Re: Gluon – Deep Learning API from AWS and Microsoft
#42I can't help but feel that "Gluon" is only going to conflict with Gluons (The Bosonic particle)
There's also the Gluon language [1] and, as someone below mentioned, this [2] enterprise mobile thing.
[1]: https://github.com/gluon-lang/gluon
[2]: http://gluonhq.com/
Re: Gluon – Deep Learning API from AWS and Microsoft
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Python is only fun for tiny projects. Once you reach 120k LOC in a project, refactoring in Python is an insanity even with PyCharm, and debugging becomes impossible, too. Have you tried Kotlin?
Data Engineer here... How do you get to 120K LOC without splitting up your infrastructure? If anything, it is poor design on your part. Python is beautiful. I've used it at 3 different companies now, 2 of which i encouraged them to try it out and they have nothing but love for it.
Even if you split your infrastructure, have you ever tried refactoring larger projects, with many contributors, while ensuring API contracts are kept?
Without a strict and static type system it becomes quite problematic to ensure new code keeps the API contract, unless you have unit codes for every possible value.
A good type system accelerates your coding speed, compared to writing equivalent unit tests, and it improves your quality, compared to no testing.
Re: Gluon – Deep Learning API from AWS and Microsoft
#44This is interesting, but because of the growth of the number of ML frameworks and languages, when new ones pop up it would be great for them to release methods to transfer existing models to their language. I would love some extra compatibility with AWS for deploying deep learning models in prod but since I already have existing models running in production, it's a hard sale for me to re-train and re-implement from scratch existing work.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Data Engineer here... How do you get to 120K LOC without splitting up your infrastructure? If anything, it is poor design on your part. Python is beautiful. I've used it at 3 different companies now, 2 of which i encouraged them to try it out and they have nothing but love for it.
Even if you split your infrastructure, have you ever tried refactoring larger projects, with many contributors, while ensuring API contracts are kept? Without a strict and static type system it becomes quite problematic to ensure new code keeps the API contract, unless you have unit codes for every possible value. A good type system accelerates your coding speed, compared to writing equivalent unit tests, and it impr…
“accelerates coding speed”
this is debatable
Re: Gluon – Deep Learning API from AWS and Microsoft
#46Curious to see what HN thinks of this. Are Amazon and Microsoft going against Google and Tensorflow? Will we see Gluon Processing Units on AWS and Azure in the near future?
Tensorflow was the default Keras backend on AWS, but it got replaced by MxNet
Sorry that's super confusing, since currently Tensorflow is 1 of 2 possible backends to Keras. Is this the same Keras?
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#47A little odd to see AWS and Microsoft partnering together on something like this, but it's good to see regardless.
The most important executives at both companies live and work around Seattle, so maybe that has something to do with it. There are some nice golf courses in Bellevue!
As far as I know, none of my colleagues can golf. But I hear that we do have some nice courses.
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#48The goal is to erode TF user base. Too little, too late: PyTorch is already very effectively eroding the TF user base.
Re: Gluon – Deep Learning API from AWS and Microsoft
#49Can someone please shed light to why so many ML tools and frameworks are being implemented in Python? What makes Python so special for doing ML? Personally, I would love for MS to release or support a .NET based ML toolkit. There is open source stuff like http://accord-framework.net but I would assume that it isn't as big nor complete as a framework being supported by a major corporation.
https://jeffknupp.com/blog/2017/09/15/python-is-the-fastest-... > Python's Buffer Protocol: The #1 Reason Python Is The Fastest Growing Programming Language Today > The buffer protocol was (and still is) an extremely low-level API for direct manipulation of memory buffers by other libraries. These are buffers created and used by the interpreter to store certain types of data (initially, primarily "array-like" structu…
That doesn’t sound like a very satisfying reason to me. Isn’t a ByteArrayBuffer in Java pretty much the same (its underlying implementation is a char[] which can be used directly from C)?
Is there perhaps another factor, such as an existing ecosystem or that it’s widely used in the academic field?
Re: Gluon – Deep Learning API from AWS and Microsoft
#50I can't help but feel that "Gluon" is only going to conflict with Gluons (The Bosonic particle)
In the same way Caffe conflicts with your local coffee shop. This is far from the first naming conflict of the internet age.