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Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which says more about why the real estate market in San Francisco is such a disaster.

Because people keep using valuable space for offices instead of affordable housing? This is exactly why SF sucks to live in. You have to live there to be close to work, but you're in competition with your damn office. Talk about screwing over your employees.

That isn't how affordable housing works. You can't will it into existence.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

#32

This is tangential, and I'm not a designer so this is just one dev's opinion, but I found Dropbox's latest rebrand (dropbox.design) to be a bizarre departure for them. It was so off the wall I just assumed it was some sort of parody site until I realized it was official. I'm in no place to determine if it's "good" or "bad", but it's certainly an...interesting direction, if nothing else.

I loved it! It was very fresh and provides a great brand framework for dropbox moving forward. It'll evolve and pivot in lots of great ways, keep an eye on it !

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which says more about why the real estate market in San Francisco is such a disaster.

Because people keep using valuable space for offices instead of affordable housing? This is exactly why SF sucks to live in. You have to live there to be close to work, but you're in competition with your damn office. Talk about screwing over your employees.

Municipalities _lose_ money on residential space. And make money on commercial space. Sure the companies are collectively going along with this, but it's a really ridiculous structural problem that the state of California needs to fix.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

#36

In a year though it downsizes to 125k square feet and they have to upgrade to pro to access all the offices.

As dogfooding, when the office is more than 90% full, all employees will receive daily popups like this one: https://twitter.com/bobdegol/status/774627424801787904

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

#37
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Drive

https://github.com/vitalif/grive2

"It simply downloads all the files in your Google Drive into the current directory. After you make some changes to the local files, run grive again and it will upload your changes back to your Google Drive."

That's a far cry from

   mount ~/gDrive/
with company-level support.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

#38

Naive question, but why would large companies favor leasing instead of just outright purchasing the property? It seems that when the terms of the lease are up, the leasing company has almost unlimited leverage in the next negotiation (unless the tenant company doesn't mind relocating all of its employees).

The leasing company might not have as much leverage as you think. Finding another reliable tenant to take over that much space at once would not be easy. Most likely it would need to be split up into multiple tenants, which means they would need to pay for a certain amount of renovation. It would be much easier and cheaper to have the current tenant stay.

Some companies own their own real estate, but that involves hiring a number of people dedicated to managing it. It might be more efficient to outsource that to a landlord. There are probably also tax implications to one or the other depending on the company's situation.

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

#39
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736,000 square feet is pretty sizeable when you consider that SF has a building cap of 875,000 gross square feet of office space per year: http://sf-planning.org/office-development-annual-limitation-...

It's really interesting to look at the current stats:

http://zasfplan.sfplanning.org/ANLM/Office_Allocation_Stats....

Fun to see people playing the game... A lot of small allocation projects right in the high 49k sqft, as you would expect.

Also, the large project pipeline is currently at negative seven million sqft. Looks like projects have to get in line early to try to secure space. Some projects are big enough to take more than one year of allocations!

Re: Dropbox taking entire building in Mission Bay – biggest lease in city history

#40

Naive question, but why would large companies favor leasing instead of just outright purchasing the property? It seems that when the terms of the lease are up, the leasing company has almost unlimited leverage in the next negotiation (unless the tenant company doesn't mind relocating all of its employees).

My guess:

If they grow to be big enough, then they can move out at build their own campus. Equalises the leverage at that point.

Also, the lease term will be for more than a few years (IMO 5-10) and that’s good enough time to figure out growing plans.

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