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No, you wouldn't be able to do that. They burn themselves to death.
Yes, I know what it is. And yes, I think I could do it.
And I think I could fly, but I'm not going to try. See how that works?
Where's the Proof That Mindfulness Works?
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Re: Where's the Proof That Mindfulness Works?
#32Frankly a lot of times "mindfulness" seems backwards. If I'm upset about something happening in the present, absolute focus on the present seems like not really the best approach, and I don't think indulging in thinking about the future or reminiscing about the past are really features you need to beat out of yourself. Also I was talked into reading the Power of Now and it's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
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Yes, I know what it is. And yes, I think I could do it.
And I think I could fly, but I'm not going to try. See how that works?
I've been working two full-time jobs for more than a year now while maintaining a bi-phasic sleep schedule.
Think what you wish, but sitting there in pain for a few minutes while my life ends (by my own accord) doesn't seem all that difficult comparatively.
I take on very hard tasks daily, and sustain work on them for a lot longer than three minutes.
Don't make me challenge you to a vipassana, friendo.
Re: Where's the Proof That Mindfulness Works?
#34As someone who has meditated 20 years, 2-4 hours per day and participated in long retreats 7 days to month, I have always been skeptical about this "mindfulness business". It has it's roots in old meditation traditions, but they were never supposed to bee quick fix, relaxation or therapy. Many therapy methods work well with the therapist who developed it, but don't give good results when packaged into programs and co…
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Re: Where's the Proof That Mindfulness Works?
#35Frankly a lot of times "mindfulness" seems backwards. If I'm upset about something happening in the present, absolute focus on the present seems like not really the best approach, and I don't think indulging in thinking about the future or reminiscing about the past are really features you need to beat out of yourself. Also I was talked into reading the Power of Now and it's one of the most ridiculous things I've eve…
If the idea behind these techniques is to combat the natural response of hiding the problems and actively reckoning them, your argument doesn't seem to offer a rebuttal of that counter-intuitive proposal, you're just saying it's bad.
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#36You could wait for the research to be conclusive, or you could dive in right now and radically improve your life. I recommend starting with the free short book, Mindfulness In Plain English - http://www.wisdompubs.org/sites/default/files/preview/Mindfu...
I love this book so much that I bought the paperback edition. Practicing and following its advice has helped me improve my general mood and outlook over the past year.
The past year being one of the most difficult of my life. For me, I see direct evidence of the techniques personally in that it has been reducing the impact anxiety has on me when it occurs.
Its also been improving my ability to: 1) be 'present' and not have anxiety come up as often to begin with, 2) quickly address/resolve the anxiety when it does occur, using the techniques
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That's kind of begging the question, though. The question is, will diving in radically improve my life? I'm not saying it won't, by the way. I myself practice something that some might consider to be mindfulness. But you are assuming facts not in evidence, as a lawyer might say.
Evidence is hard to get due to variables in such studies. You have to observe people's daily routine for a long period of time, which gets to be expensive. You also cannot fool the subject, or the people monitoring progress, so there's no way to do such studies double-blind. For these reasons studies on nutrition are also hard and mostly flawed. But do we need a study to tell us that sugar is poison? Well, ok, we do,…
I'll grant you the note of our grandparent's diets, but I don't think it's analogous. Were our grandparents also more mindful? Perhaps I'm missing your point.
Re: Where's the Proof That Mindfulness Works?
#38You could wait for the research to be conclusive, or you could dive in right now and radically improve your life. I recommend starting with the free short book, Mindfulness In Plain English - http://www.wisdompubs.org/sites/default/files/preview/Mindfu...
In what concrete ways will life improve?
Also, the premise of that book is wrong (that no human is content).
Re: Where's the Proof That Mindfulness Works?
#39Frankly a lot of times "mindfulness" seems backwards. If I'm upset about something happening in the present, absolute focus on the present seems like not really the best approach, and I don't think indulging in thinking about the future or reminiscing about the past are really features you need to beat out of yourself. Also I was talked into reading the Power of Now and it's one of the most ridiculous things I've eve…
If the idea behind these techniques is to combat the natural response of hiding the problems and actively reckoning them, your argument doesn't seem to offer a rebuttal of that counter-intuitive proposal, you're just saying it's bad.
Well, if the Power of Now is to be believed, "actively reckoning" with your problems is also bad and you should instead respond like a smiling fool to absolutely anything that happens (among other things he suggests that menstruation can be turned into a joyful expression of womanhood if only you let go of your "pain body" and "egoic mind," elements of the human psyche he also blames for the Nazis).
Re: Where's the Proof That Mindfulness Works?
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Evidence is hard to get due to variables in such studies. You have to observe people's daily routine for a long period of time, which gets to be expensive. You also cannot fool the subject, or the people monitoring progress, so there's no way to do such studies double-blind. For these reasons studies on nutrition are also hard and mostly flawed. But do we need a study to tell us that sugar is poison? Well, ok, we do,…
I'll grant you the note of our grandparent's diets, but I don't think it's analogous. Were our grandparents also more mindful? Perhaps I'm missing your point.
I seem to be missing it too. You don't need mindfulness to be on a particular diet, or to avoid sugar, or obesity.