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Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#101

Post by xj9 »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #56
xj9 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if they have the ability to install software, they can use i2p https://geti2p.net/en/download

Odd. I looked at the description on the main page, and it lists eDonkey, BitTorrent, and Gnutella, but not any kind of direct file transfer. Am I missing something?

yes.

1. click bit torrent 2. click create torrent 3. type the path to your file 4. share magnet link

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d0da0a2cac2bb3fd7ba6548edef12a24122ef481&tr=http://diftracker.i2p/announce.php

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#102

Post by ElijahLynn »

One thing that could be improved with this is to have an option for a human readable/typeable link. I wanted to quickly transfer a file from my desktop to my phone. Used Send and realized I didn't want to type that cryptographic URL.

I ran the Send link through Typer.in (specializing in hand-typed urls) and it worked as I initially expected. However, it would be nice if Send had this functionality by default.

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#103

Post by kyrra »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #5

It really is a shame that there still isn't a easy way (A person whose computer knowledge extends to using facebook), that I know of, of sending arbitrarily large files that isn't tethered to a specific cloud service and is also reliable (can tolerate connection dropping). It seems that bitorrent protocols are pretty close, but I don't think there is a seamless client that allows for "magical" point to point transact…

https://upspin.io/ is in super early concept stage, but trying to solve file sharing issues. It allows for hosting on multiple platforms and trying to keep control in the hands of the users.

https://upspin.io/doc/overview.md

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#104

Post by KGIII »

wybiral wrote: post #76
AndrewDucker wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, three systems which all require a central service?

What about something like Tor. You can run a hidden service to get an onion address that any Tor client can access. Would that meet the requirements without being a "central" service?

If privacy isn't your primary concern, and this is absolutely not private, you can also just use a redirection service and access .onion domains without installing Tor.

Just take any .onion domain and append it with .to and it should work. examplelettersblah.onion becomes examplelettersblah.onion.to and that works without needing to muck about with Tor.

This would be a horrible idea if you're concerned with privacy/anonymity. But, it'd make it easy for people to download your shared files.

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#105

Post by wybiral »

dublinben wrote: post #91
wybiral wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about something like Tor. You can run a hidden service to get an onion address that any Tor client can access. Would that meet the requirements without being a "central" service?

That's exactly how Onionshare works. https://onionshare.org/

Never seen that before. But running a hidden service on Tor is absurdly easy, then you just shove a file server through whatever port Tor is forwarding.

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#106

Post by cdancette »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #102

One thing that could be improved with this is to have an option for a human readable/typeable link. I wanted to quickly transfer a file from my desktop to my phone. Used Send and realized I didn't want to type that cryptographic URL. I ran the Send link through Typer.in (specializing in hand-typed urls) and it worked as I initially expected. However, it would be nice if Send had this functionality by default.

The private key is in the url, and mozilla says explicitly that they don't know this private key. They could shorten the url but then they would have the private key.

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#107

Post by mapgrep »

microtonal wrote: post #67
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #5

It really is a shame that there still isn't a easy way (A person whose computer knowledge extends to using facebook), that I know of, of sending arbitrarily large files that isn't tethered to a specific cloud service and is also reliable (can tolerate connection dropping). It seems that bitorrent protocols are pretty close, but I don't think there is a seamless client that allows for "magical" point to point transact…

Resilio Sync (formerly Bittorrent Sync) pretty much offers that. They use relays in case both peers cannot pierce NAT, but the relays only see ciphertext. They also have apps for Android and iOS, making transfers to mobile devices also possible. Since it is closed-source software, it's up to you to decide whether you trust the software. SyncThing is a free software alternative, but I wouldn't say that it is usable (y…

I used BitTorrent Sync for a couple of years and loved it. Has it evolved much under the Resilio banner?

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#108

Post by konart »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #102

One thing that could be improved with this is to have an option for a human readable/typeable link. I wanted to quickly transfer a file from my desktop to my phone. Used Send and realized I didn't want to type that cryptographic URL. I ran the Send link through Typer.in (specializing in hand-typed urls) and it worked as I initially expected. However, it would be nice if Send had this functionality by default.

Well, if you use Firefox on your phone you can leave tab openned on your desktop and choose this tab on your phone.

Or, if you are a Telegram user - you can send the link you yourself.

You can also use you mail inbox.

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

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Post by dublinben »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #102

One thing that could be improved with this is to have an option for a human readable/typeable link. I wanted to quickly transfer a file from my desktop to my phone. Used Send and realized I didn't want to type that cryptographic URL. I ran the Send link through Typer.in (specializing in hand-typed urls) and it worked as I initially expected. However, it would be nice if Send had this functionality by default.

You could have also just generated a QR code of the URL and scanned it with your phone, if you didn't want to send it electronically. I'm sure they expect users to just email these links to their recipient.

Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing

#110

Post by alexnewman »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #5

It really is a shame that there still isn't a easy way (A person whose computer knowledge extends to using facebook), that I know of, of sending arbitrarily large files that isn't tethered to a specific cloud service and is also reliable (can tolerate connection dropping). It seems that bitorrent protocols are pretty close, but I don't think there is a seamless client that allows for "magical" point to point transact…

Magic wormhole
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