Just my experience/test: it takes longer to upload the file to mozilla then it would have sending directly to DSL of a friend..
edit- Download tested now too, not bad, though nothing to write home about.
Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing
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#12Do they share my files and "anonymized" upload history with a third party (edit: was "advertising company") for this service as well?
They share it with RiseUp, the radical-left organisation they fund. Don't worry my friend, your files are safe with them.
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#13Do they share my files and "anonymized" upload history with a third party (edit: was "advertising company") for this service as well?
You can see exactly what they collect here https://github.com/mozilla/send/blob/master/docs/metrics.md and decide for yourself.
I think it's misleading to refer to Google as an advertising company when talking about Analytics since this data won't be used for targeting ads.
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#14Mozilla have donated $100,000 to the radical left-extremists RiseUp (who on their website state they want a worldwide revolution against capitalism). By doing so, Firefox have made themselves a political organisation. So... my question is this. Is this Send feature safe to use for people who have different political opinions?
If you're in business to do business then do business, if you're in business to do politics, do politics.
Be non partial.
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#15It really is a shame that there still isn't a easy way (A person whose computer knowledge extends to using facebook), that I know of, of sending arbitrarily large files that isn't tethered to a specific cloud service and is also reliable (can tolerate connection dropping). It seems that bitorrent protocols are pretty close, but I don't think there is a seamless client that allows for "magical" point to point transact…
You're at a computer.
You need to connect to another computer.
First you need to know a route to that computer. If it has an externally reachable IP address and you know that, then great. If it has an externally reachable IP address and a DNS entry and you know _that_, then also great.
If you don't know the IP address or domain name of the other computer then you'll have to do some kind of lookup/exchange to find it. That means some kind of centralised service to provide the lookup functionality.
If the other computer doesn't even has an externally reachable IP address then a central service is going to have to act as a connection point which you can both connect to (or provide some other method of helping the two of you connect).
I'm not aware of any entirely decentralised system which would allow two computers which are behind NAT to find and then talk to each other. Or any obvious design which would work there.
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#16Do they share my files and "anonymized" upload history with a third party (edit: was "advertising company") for this service as well?
They share it with RiseUp, the radical-left organisation they fund. Don't worry my friend, your files are safe with them.
I guess you’ve got nothing to back up that assertion?
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#17Just my experience/test: it takes longer to upload the file to mozilla then it would have sending directly to DSL of a friend.. edit- Download tested now too, not bad, though nothing to write home about.
What software did you use to create a direct connection to your friend?
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#18So, where is the money coming from ? Who's the product here ?
Good question.
In this instance, the product is Firefox. The money is coming from the usual sources of revenue of Mozilla, i.e. Firefox.
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#19It really is a shame that there still isn't a easy way (A person whose computer knowledge extends to using facebook), that I know of, of sending arbitrarily large files that isn't tethered to a specific cloud service and is also reliable (can tolerate connection dropping). It seems that bitorrent protocols are pretty close, but I don't think there is a seamless client that allows for "magical" point to point transact…
You're at a computer. You need to connect to another computer. First you need to know a route to that computer. If it has an externally reachable IP address and you know that, then great. If it has an externally reachable IP address and a DNS entry and you know _that_, then also great. If you don't know the IP address or domain name of the other computer then you'll have to do some kind of lookup/exchange to find it.…
Two thoughts:
- IPv6 kind of helps here, at least if we hope that no NAT standard ever makes it into IPv6. Crossing my fingers.
- There does exist at least one NAT hole-punching technique that can traverse two NATs with no central server using ICMP-based holepunching and UDP. Obviously, like all hole punching techniques, it only works on certain kinds of NATs, and firewalls can kill it.
Re: Firefox Send: Private, Encrypted File Sharing
#20It really is a shame that there still isn't a easy way (A person whose computer knowledge extends to using facebook), that I know of, of sending arbitrarily large files that isn't tethered to a specific cloud service and is also reliable (can tolerate connection dropping). It seems that bitorrent protocols are pretty close, but I don't think there is a seamless client that allows for "magical" point to point transact…
I'm not sure it tolerates connection dropping, but I've been using justbeamit for years and it never deceived me : https://www.justbeamit.com