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OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by mxstbr »

mxstbr wrote: post #43

TL;DR: OxygenOS tracks your every activity in every app, and there's no settings to disable the tracking. To get rid of it you have to uninstall the tracking app via adb: (no root access needed) $ adb start-server $ adb shell > pm uninstall -k --user 0 net.oneplus.odm Note: This requires adb to be installed, your phone to be connected and USB debugging to be enabled.

According to @01abhishekjain on Twitter[0] you can also do it in a single command:

  adb uninstall -k --user 0 net.oneplus.odm
Can anybody confirm that? I've already run the three commands above on my phone.

[0]: https://twitter.com/01abhishekjain/status/917785829455446016

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by 482794793792894 »

ohgodmorecow wrote: post #38
AndrewCHM wrote: post #35

Google's is similarly excessive https://i.imgur.com/fWvV7R4.png Though I get the feeling google's approach of trying to desensitize me (emailing me about how great I am for traveling to mcdonalds like a slob, and gamifying my use of google maps, for example) instead of shamefully hiding it, is a fair bit worse

You can easily turn off this feature. But it's forced on Oxygen.

That doesn't really make a difference. Opt-out is essentially the same as just forcing it. The vast majority of users will never even know that they could be opting out.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by 482794793792894 »

snvzz wrote: post #72

I own a oneplus3 device. Since I switched to LineageOS, it's faster, the battery lasts way longer, and it doesn't even get warm on 3d games where it got burning hot before. The devices are a mixed bag, some of them are quite decent. OxygenOS, however, is garbage.

Did you install the Google Play Services along LineageOS or not? Those by themselves also already make a big difference in the aspects that you named...

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by apocalyptic0n3 »

tuxxy wrote: post #120
apocalyptic0n3 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is great, but what is to prevent them from re-installing in an update? Or throwing it in a service that can't be uninstalled? In my mind, the only options are either dumping your OnePlus or flashing a third party ROM (I plan to flash Lineage tonight and probably start shopping for a replacement for my OP3 as well)

Flashing a third party ROM is probably your best bet. I'm curious to what phones you're considering to replace your OP3 with, though. For myself, I've been looking for something that has "much better than average" security and, unfortunately for any mobile platform, that looks like it's probably not going to happen. The closest ROM I've found is CopperheadOS, but it is only supported on a few devices.

I'm probably just going to flash Lineage. I have plenty of past experience with CM so it should be fairly familiar and it apparently works extremely well on the OnePlus 3 (I've seen the OP3 labeled the perfect phone for Lineage in the past, so hopefully that is true)

In terms of phones, I don't know. The Pixel 2 XL, Galaxy S8, Note 8, and LG V30 are probably the best Android devices available right now. I haven't done much research so I don't have much of an opinion right now. I'm feeling fairly jaded right now and half-considering switching to an iPhone and away from a lot of Google services because Apple seems to at least half-care about privacy. I know in the end that is likely BS but what can you do at this point short of go back to a dumb phone (which you really can't do if you are an app dev trying to stay on top of current trends)?

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by sampo »

api wrote: post #87
amelius wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?

Smart phones followed a very different path of evolution that was heavily influenced by cell carriers. Apple had to fight really hard to get the iPhone carried, and to do that they had to lock it down to comply with what I am sure were a long laundry list of carrier demands. This was the era of flip phones when carriers had full control. They really didn't want to lose that control. I doubt a company smaller and less…

> I doubt a company smaller and less influential than Apple could possibly have gotten a full-fledge computer of any kind onto cell networks.

In Europe, Nokia did it in 1996, 11 years before Apple's iPhone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_9000_Communicator

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by ForHackernews »

ohgodmorecow wrote: post #38
AndrewCHM wrote: post #35

Google's is similarly excessive https://i.imgur.com/fWvV7R4.png Though I get the feeling google's approach of trying to desensitize me (emailing me about how great I am for traveling to mcdonalds like a slob, and gamifying my use of google maps, for example) instead of shamefully hiding it, is a fair bit worse

You can easily turn off this feature. But it's forced on Oxygen.

Is that true? You can turn off your ability to see your activity history in Google, but does it actually delete (or not send?) any data from Google's servers?

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by rodgerd »

amelius wrote: post #48
CharlesDodgson wrote: post #13

I have absolutely no doubt there is some data centre in Shenzhen full of my Huawei phone metrics! I think this is the biggest issue with android phones, they are full of potential data leakages like this. Privacy is definitely a concern and a pull factor to getting an iPhone again. There is a lot to be said for a company that is focused on hardware and not on serving content to that device. Then again it's also a rea…

This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?

> why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre

It was an accident of history, leading to the ISA bus x86 clones, and Compaq not losing a court case around clean-room engineering.

IBM even tried to roll back that accident with the MCA bus, and possibly would have succeeded if they hadn't been so greedy.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by snvzz »

482794793792894 wrote: post #133
snvzz wrote: post #72

I own a oneplus3 device. Since I switched to LineageOS, it's faster, the battery lasts way longer, and it doesn't even get warm on 3d games where it got burning hot before. The devices are a mixed bag, some of them are quite decent. OxygenOS, however, is garbage.

Did you install the Google Play Services along LineageOS or not? Those by themselves also already make a big difference in the aspects that you named...

Yes, I did. Whatever is wrong with OxygenOS isn't due to Google Play Services.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Post by api »

sampo wrote: post #135
api wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smart phones followed a very different path of evolution that was heavily influenced by cell carriers. Apple had to fight really hard to get the iPhone carried, and to do that they had to lock it down to comply with what I am sure were a long laundry list of carrier demands. This was the era of flip phones when carriers had full control. They really didn't want to lose that control. I doubt a company smaller and less…

> I doubt a company smaller and less influential than Apple could possibly have gotten a full-fledge computer of any kind onto cell networks. In Europe, Nokia did it in 1996, 11 years before Apple's iPhone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_9000_Communicator

Europe has always had more open cell networks.
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