This should have been asked when you're first booting up. I'll receive my one plus in a few days and track whats going on. Transparency is always the best path and supports that you've the best intentions.
OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.apple.com/privacy/
The sales page is nice and all, but this is the page that matters: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ . TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience
>TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience
Very well summed up.
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#53I have absolutely no doubt there is some data centre in Shenzhen full of my Huawei phone metrics! I think this is the biggest issue with android phones, they are full of potential data leakages like this. Privacy is definitely a concern and a pull factor to getting an iPhone again. There is a lot to be said for a company that is focused on hardware and not on serving content to that device. Then again it's also a rea…
This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?
If you're running Windows 10, even "top of the line desktop PCs" engage in data collection these days - I have to turn off pages of settings and set group policies to disable it all properly and even then there are still some things which can't be disabled, like the Bing hit every time you type in the search box even with internet search disabled, so I have to use hosts file blocking.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-...
Android is pretty much as close as you're getting - I'd say it's quite comparable to the situation on desktop PCs today if not a little better because the open source community around it is quite potent. In fact, OnePlus is quite popular in these communities for making cheap, well-spec'd phones with unlocked bootloaders where you're free to have full control over your device.
And all this is missing one of the biggest sources of this spying - apps. Most apps send pretty much everything they can get their hands on when you start them, I launched a game the other day and had it connecting to 6 services for 2 analytics, ads, and crash reporting, all of which were contacted every time the app was started. For this I'm very grateful for tools like XPrivacy and LineageOS's privacy guard which all you to trivially block this and such tools are not commonly available on other platforms.
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#54OK.. now what should I say about my Xiaomi "smart"phone?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?
App stores.
Periodic driver breaking.
Locked or hardtoflash bootloaders.
Not releasing code. Even encrypting stock ROMs.
Punishing power users by blocking root.
Consumers not caring.
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#56> ping open.oneplus.net PING hadoop-1219418324.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com Your phone usage data going straight into OnePlus' Hadoop cluster?
No?
ryans-mbp:~ ryan$ curl https://open.oneplus.net -D-
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
...
Server: nginx
Granted the data could end up in a Hadoop cluster, but they didn't expose that directly to the internet.
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#57> ping open.oneplus.net PING hadoop-1219418324.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com Your phone usage data going straight into OnePlus' Hadoop cluster?
Can we start sending it dummy data to make it useless?
My guess is we'll need someone to provide OAuth tokens to spoof data for. Or at the minimum, details on what fields are required by "/oauth/token" for it to issue new ones.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.apple.com/privacy/
The sales page is nice and all, but this is the page that matters: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ . TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience
Apple claims this is non-personal information:
> We may collect information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where an Apple product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and advertising.
How is your occupation and exact location non-personal?
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.apple.com/privacy/
The sales page is nice and all, but this is the page that matters: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ . TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience
Yes, but be careful:
> Personal information will only be shared by Apple to provide or improve our products, services and advertising; it will not be shared with third parties for their marketing purposes.
This goes in contrast with most tech companies such as Amazon and Google. However, Apple does have the horrible clause:
> in the event of a reorganization, merger, or sale we may transfer any and all personal information we collect to the relevant third party.
This clause should be considered the antichrist of clauses, because it just makes the entire policy void in case of a merger. Not that I see Apple being acquired by anyone soon, but still.