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OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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post #7

Anyone know what data iOS send to Apple?

https://www.apple.com/privacy/

The sales page is nice and all, but this is the page that matters: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/.

TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

#42

Google's is similarly excessive https://i.imgur.com/fWvV7R4.png Though I get the feeling google's approach of trying to desensitize me (emailing me about how great I am for traveling to mcdonalds like a slob, and gamifying my use of google maps, for example) instead of shamefully hiding it, is a fair bit worse

Wait so google's approach of explicitly showing you the information they gather is worse than hiding the information they gather?

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

#43
TL;DR: OxygenOS tracks your every activity in every app, and there's no settings to disable the tracking.

To get rid of it you have to uninstall the tracking app via adb: (no root access needed)

  $ adb start-server
  $ adb shell
  > pm uninstall -k --user 0 net.oneplus.odm
Note: This requires adb to be installed, your phone to be connected and USB debugging to be enabled.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

#44
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I feel I can trust Google with my data more than some other android manufacturer or reseller. Sure they'll serve me more adverts, but it's to some ends at least. I'm not sure I understand this logic. Can you explain your reasoning here? What makes Google different? Is it just about data security (e.g. you don't care what anyone does with your data as long as they don't leak it publicly)?

Google is also a US company, which means you at least have a different set of intelligence agencies after you. Given those two options, I think I’d prefer to give my data to the NSA, not the Chinese government.

Hmm, I'm in the opposite boat - China can't extradite me or arrest me. I'd much rather my information be in the hands of Chinese intelligence agencies than American ones.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

#46
post #8

Holy moly O_o. Those kind of stories are keeping me back from buying any Android devices in nearest future. Somebody might say that I can flash it with clean Android ROM but that's great for people who have too much time :-)

What other options do you have if you want a smartphone? I severely doubt that other devices (most notably Apple) are any better. I think that if you don't want this to happen you have to buy a dumbphone, which may or may not be an option for some people.

The Librem 5 just passed its crowd-funding goal[1]. That's what I'm getting for my next phone.

[1]: https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

#47

If this data collection is not declared in the user-agreement, then is it illegal?

Of course not. One of the reasons why this kind of industry popped out of no where is because these kinds of things are not regulated. If they were, targeted ads would be a much harder problem.

I don't think this is legal in the EU. I suppose somebody has to complain to the correct commission or sue to find out for sure though.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

#48

I have absolutely no doubt there is some data centre in Shenzhen full of my Huawei phone metrics! I think this is the biggest issue with android phones, they are full of potential data leakages like this. Privacy is definitely a concern and a pull factor to getting an iPhone again. There is a lot to be said for a company that is focused on hardware and not on serving content to that device. Then again it's also a rea…

This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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post #48

I have absolutely no doubt there is some data centre in Shenzhen full of my Huawei phone metrics! I think this is the biggest issue with android phones, they are full of potential data leakages like this. Privacy is definitely a concern and a pull factor to getting an iPhone again. There is a lot to be said for a company that is focused on hardware and not on serving content to that device. Then again it's also a rea…

This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?

App stores.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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post #29
post #7

Anyone know what data iOS send to Apple?

Apple gives you an option for telemetry on first boot. No idea how much that option turns off. Not sure if the phone sends anything to Apple with that option and not using Apple services (that’s pretty hard because of the App Store; if you really care about iPhone privacy you’d want to download all your apps once then never touch the store again).

Some friends using apple complain about the data usage and they don't understand where the data consumption is coming from, even with the data tracking apps. Don't know what's going on with the latest versions of iOS.
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