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Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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If some people 'suck' at negotiating then that must mean there are others who are 'better' at negotiating If I have a guardian who pays my rent so that i can take 6months to high ball offers to finally find a job that will pay me a high wage does that mean I'm 'better' at negotiating?

What stops you from taking the first job you find, and then spending 6 months while working looking for better jobs? It hardly is THAT hard to get some competing offers. And if you can't be bothered, I guess you don't really want it anyway?

The fact that your employment history will make you look like a flaky job-hopper; thus serving as a drag on future earnings.

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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Have you ever logged into Credit Karma? I wholehearty recommend it just to see how much information they are pulling, fully automatic up to seven days ago. Its not only my salary month by month, but also all my bank accounts, all credit card account all with amount I owe, amounts and history I paid, everything! Full front-face info, straight from credit reporting bureaus! :|

Damn credit karma shows you all that? I don't think I've seen any place where it says how much I've paid for CCs or my bank accounts or my salary (not sure if that's just because it's self-employed/freelance income).

Its funny how people downvote without checking.

Yes I can see every month how much I owe and how much I paid back. Month after month history. I sure also see my checking and savings accounts, from every bank (currently 2), with up to date (well, 7 days ago) status on how much money I have there. I don't know what else I can say? Screenshoots - no thank you.

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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There's an alternate set here, still up and running. https://secure.w2.talx.com/popups/findemployer.aspx https://secure.w2.talx.com/PreAuthenticated/employerEntry.as...

Thanks, but despite the page loading this doesn't seem to be working. I found my employer and even after clicking the radio button for the result, it then tells me that code is not found, which makes no sense, obviously, unless they have disabled it without putting up the maintenance page.

Still works for me. Whenever I search for a company name ti returns a list of employers in this format:

XXXXX Company Name

I guess the first five digits is the code.

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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> The service is designed to provide automated employment and income verification for prospective employers, and tens of thousands of companies report employee salary data to it. It sounds like companies can easily use this to collude against employee wages and benefits.

I just froze my family's credit reports with all three credit reporting agencies ... I wonder whether that blocks employers from this info as well, I imagine it's a completely separate service though.

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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Yeah, that is pretty crazy. The ball is usually already firmly in the employer's court. This kind of information greatly diminishes the already most-diminished's bargaining power.

Past pay is not directly a significant issue. It's just a question of getting competing offers. The real issue is some people suck at negotiation and past salaries will tell companies that.

Any suggestions on how to bypass the question of past/expected comp then?

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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Maybe it's time to just make tax returns (and therefore salaries) part of the public record. I think that transparency could make for a more fair process and also level negotiation since the compensation would then be about the role and how good someone is actually rated, rather than about how much they happened to have been paid in the past or how good they are about lying about it.

It'd be great to read the arguments against making them public. There's good reasons why we should make them public available here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/business/yourtaxes/14discl... Secrecy is good in many places, but I can't think of why it is good for tax returns, asides from perhaps allowing criminals to more easily target those with high incomes?

Same reason why I have an opaque fence instead of a transparent one.

I prefer for every random passerby to know full details of everything I do.

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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Here's one: don't do KBA, since that is an open door to fraud.

How about mandatory 2FA rfid token implants, then we can put this SSN business behind us.

You can't really mandate implants. Well, you could but that's how you get open revolution in the streets.

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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Past pay is not directly a significant issue. It's just a question of getting competing offers. The real issue is some people suck at negotiation and past salaries will tell companies that.

Any suggestions on how to bypass the question of past/expected comp then?

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Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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"Still in business"? Hell, not only that, their stock continues to go up after bouncing off what appears to be the bottom. Which makes me torn, because despite wanting very much to see Equifax and those of their ilk go out of business, I have a bunch of call options I bought when it looked like low 90s was about as low as they were going to go. I still hold those options (though they're set to expire in about two wee…

I call those BP oil spill trades. Starts with a surprise events that is seemingly catastrophic. If real consequences require special government action -- the consequences will be underwhelming and easily mitigable. If you believe there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, there's no problem profiting off this effect! See: BP oil spill, HSBC money laundering scandal, Wells Fargo fraudulent account scandal, Equif…

If you believe there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, there's no problem profiting off this effect!

Yeah, I don't know where I stand on it quite yet. I mean, I won't outright buy Exxon shares to hold long-term. Is it hypocritical to make a short-term trade using options? Yeah, probably. But it's not like that money goes straight into Equifax's pockets, it just adds a minuscule amount of liquidity to a market for abstractions of EFX. Meh, I've got bigger ethical fish to fry right now.

As aside, to add to your list: the private prison company whose stock went down last year when the Feds said they were going to curtail using private prisons. A few seconds of reading confirmed that it's states that make the most use of private prisons, not the Feds. Made bank on that one, can't say I feel good about it. But I also can't articulate exactly why I shouldn't feel good about it other than, "private prisons, yucky!"

I'm pretty sure you could beat the yearly S&P's performance in a single trade for any of those events.

Of the three that come to mind that I've personally traded recently, that is most certainly true (the in-the-money EFX calls I have are up about 300%). Problem is, such scandals need to happen more frequently in order to make a trading strategy out of it. About once or twice a year is as frequently as I see such opportunities come up. One could have made a year's SV salary on EFX calls with a $50K investment, but because it's options that $50K could very easily be worth $0 in just a month or two.

Re: Equifax Breach Fallout: Your Salary History

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> The service is designed to provide automated employment and income verification for prospective employers, and tens of thousands of companies report employee salary data to it. It sounds like companies can easily use this to collude against employee wages and benefits.

I just froze my family's credit reports with all three credit reporting agencies ... I wonder whether that blocks employers from this info as well, I imagine it's a completely separate service though.

There's a fourth as I've learned through this fiasco. Worth freezing: Innovis
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