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Re: Debian 9.2 released

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On a tangential note, I don't like how I get served the German version of the site with no obvious way to get the "canonical" one. And then I hate realizing how hard it is to combine support of multiple languages and still making everything transparent and accessible. And also, what a huge effort it is to translate pages to different languages while (I think) almost everyone wants to read the English version.

Send the correct language headers and stop complaining.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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There's a link at the bottom: https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20171007.en.html

I actually looked for a while there (even Ctrl+f'ed) but somehow missed it. My bad. Still it's more of a nuisance to most people and I don't like how the standard URL does not deliver the same page to all.

That's how the web is supposed to work. If you prefer English versions of pages, go into your browser configuration and tell it to prefer English.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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sid == unstable

sid (still in Development)

While true, I guess the point was that it's misleading to refer to sid as Debian's "experimental" release, since Debian actually has a "release" referred to as experimental and it is not sid.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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As someone who has been choosing CentOS for the same purpose, what would be some reasons for me to switch off the top of your head?

As someone who hasn't used CentOS much, when I've had to use it I've found the package selection (packages/versions) to be lacking, requiring me to use one of the countless 3rd party repos that may or may not contain what I need

I've known people in authority positions who have insisted on CentOS because "red hat certification", "tested for enterprise" etc, whose first setup step is to enable EPEL and a bunch of 3rd party repos.

They don't seem to see how this negates the advantage of using a "well tested, enterprise grade" distro!

I much prefer Debian (for servers and development machines) as a good intersection between "up to date" and "stable".

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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If you want to run the latest, greatest, bleeding edge version of $foo, CentOS may not be for you.

Well, I noticed that CentOS/RHEL distro's have quite old versions of everything, but Debian stable doesn't seem all that cutting edge either. I find myself reaching out to backports and even sid to get what I need at times. At my new job, we recently had that debate -- and I was quickly overruled for recommending CentOS/RHEL. My employer is a Java shop, I can almost always find rpm and deb pkg's for most stuff we nee…

RHEL works by backporting bug fixes and new features into the old versions. Don't go by the version numbers, check the availability of features instead.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

#28

On a tangential note, I don't like how I get served the German version of the site with no obvious way to get the "canonical" one. And then I hate realizing how hard it is to combine support of multiple languages and still making everything transparent and accessible. And also, what a huge effort it is to translate pages to different languages while (I think) almost everyone wants to read the English version.

A huge effort, yes -- but probably worthwhile. You might be surprised about the number of non-english speakers; I know I was when visiting Italy and Portugal this summer (especially Italy). I suspect that we tend to live in "language bubbles".

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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When I run linux on servers, I always choose Debian. It is the best distro IMO. Glad to see that the project is still going as strong as ever!

As someone who has been choosing CentOS for the same purpose, what would be some reasons for me to switch off the top of your head?

As a regular user of both and a prolific runner of CentOS in production, I would err towards Debian these days. It just feels better to me. Things like hanging updates applying SELinux policies, the whole Python mess and the lag between RHEL and CentOS patches (this has improved I will say) etc just sort of put me off CentOS a bit. It's also a lot lighter.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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On a tangential note, I don't like how I get served the German version of the site with no obvious way to get the "canonical" one. And then I hate realizing how hard it is to combine support of multiple languages and still making everything transparent and accessible. And also, what a huge effort it is to translate pages to different languages while (I think) almost everyone wants to read the English version.

This is determined by the settings in your browser. If you don't like getting German version as default, then change your browser config.

Not only you have links to different languages in the bottom of the site, you can even find a link to document describing how the standards works and how to change the settings in bunch of different browsers: https://www.debian.org/intro/cn

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