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Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by buserror »

gear54rus wrote: post #7
staticelf wrote: post #4

When I run linux on servers, I always choose Debian. It is the best distro IMO. Glad to see that the project is still going as strong as ever!

As someone who has been choosing CentOS for the same purpose, what would be some reasons for me to switch off the top of your head?

I have a debian install that I've installed in 2001. It's clean, fully up to date and has never been reinstalled. It's not necessary. It had apache1 before, it had the old exim before, it had all kind of old packages and was gradually updated over the years. True, something like 'etckeeper' is a great boon these days.

Still, that's what I call a server distro ;-)

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by jlgaddis »

marindez wrote: post #8
gear54rus wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who has been choosing CentOS for the same purpose, what would be some reasons for me to switch off the top of your head?

As someone who hasn't used CentOS much, when I've had to use it I've found the package selection (packages/versions) to be lacking, requiring me to use one of the countless 3rd party repos that may or may not contain what I need

If you want to run the latest, greatest, bleeding edge version of $foo, CentOS may not be for you.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by baruch »

jlgaddis wrote: post #12
marindez wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who hasn't used CentOS much, when I've had to use it I've found the package selection (packages/versions) to be lacking, requiring me to use one of the countless 3rd party repos that may or may not contain what I need

If you want to run the latest, greatest, bleeding edge version of $foo, CentOS may not be for you.

It's not just the latest. Debian stable doesn't have the latest but it does have a larger selection of official packages.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by scbrg »

jlgaddis wrote: post #12
marindez wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who hasn't used CentOS much, when I've had to use it I've found the package selection (packages/versions) to be lacking, requiring me to use one of the countless 3rd party repos that may or may not contain what I need

If you want to run the latest, greatest, bleeding edge version of $foo, CentOS may not be for you.

And neither is Debian (stable). But given that they're often used for the same purpose (servers), it's not that irrational to compare them. Having a larger, supported package selection (even if it's a bit old) may be a good thing, and relevant when you choose your distro.

For the record: I have no idea how the package selection compares between CentOS and Debian - I've been firmly in the Debian camp since forever, and stay there mostly for other reasons, of which laziness is the most important one.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by jstimpfle »

On a tangential note, I don't like how I get served the German version of the site with no obvious way to get the "canonical" one. And then I hate realizing how hard it is to combine support of multiple languages and still making everything transparent and accessible.

And also, what a huge effort it is to translate pages to different languages while (I think) almost everyone wants to read the English version.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by jhasse »

jstimpfle wrote: post #15

On a tangential note, I don't like how I get served the German version of the site with no obvious way to get the "canonical" one. And then I hate realizing how hard it is to combine support of multiple languages and still making everything transparent and accessible. And also, what a huge effort it is to translate pages to different languages while (I think) almost everyone wants to read the English version.

There's a link at the bottom: https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20171007.en.html

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by tooltalk »

jlgaddis wrote: post #12
marindez wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who hasn't used CentOS much, when I've had to use it I've found the package selection (packages/versions) to be lacking, requiring me to use one of the countless 3rd party repos that may or may not contain what I need

If you want to run the latest, greatest, bleeding edge version of $foo, CentOS may not be for you.

Well, I noticed that CentOS/RHEL distro's have quite old versions of everything, but Debian stable doesn't seem all that cutting edge either. I find myself reaching out to backports and even sid to get what I need at times.

At my new job, we recently had that debate -- and I was quickly overruled for recommending CentOS/RHEL. My employer is a Java shop, I can almost always find rpm and deb pkg's for most stuff we need.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by jstimpfle »

jhasse wrote: post #16
jstimpfle wrote: post #15

On a tangential note, I don't like how I get served the German version of the site with no obvious way to get the "canonical" one. And then I hate realizing how hard it is to combine support of multiple languages and still making everything transparent and accessible. And also, what a huge effort it is to translate pages to different languages while (I think) almost everyone wants to read the English version.

There's a link at the bottom: https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20171007.en.html

I actually looked for a while there (even Ctrl+f'ed) but somehow missed it. My bad. Still it's more of a nuisance to most people and I don't like how the standard URL does not deliver the same page to all.

Re: Debian 9.2 released

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Post by evook »

jlgaddis wrote: post #9
badminton1 wrote: post #5

A curious fact is that Debian name their releases after Toy Story characters. Debian experimental is permanently named "sid" (the kid that breaks toys) and "stretch" (Debian 9) is a rubber octopus from Toy Story 3. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-releas... https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#Which_Toy_Story_chara... Other curious fact about Debian, is that there are 2 logos: the open use one,…

sid == unstable

sid (still in Development)
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