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Deutsche Bank makes source code publicly available for the first time

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Re: Deutsche Bank makes source code publicly available for the first time

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I went to a Deutsche Bank Hackathon last year in Berlin where they announced opening up their apis. https://developer.db.com/ They touted it as being innovative and open but in the end all Banks are required to open up when PSD2 comes into effect next year. Seeing this release, maybe they have honest intentions for being more open, but it being Deutsche i still have my doubts.

Isn't PSD2 for retail banking / deposit accounts? This API I believe is an Investment Banking product.

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"Computer code of Deutsche Bank" sounds so German and so cool :)

The bank has the distinction of being mentioned in Kraftwerk’s 1983 song Computer World : ”Interpol, Deutsche Bank, FBI, Scotland Yard, Flensburg und das BKA, haben unsere Daten da.”

The rest I understand but why Flensburg?

Re: Deutsche Bank makes source code publicly available for the first time

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As I keep saying. Some people chuckle about Warhammer 40k Techno Priests. The only people in the warhammer universe with some chance to understand the centuries old compuer systems and machines. Other people work with legacy systems.

It's pretty genius how they've turned ancient maintenance routines into prayers and rituals in order to preserve the knowledge and scale out the work force

We do it too. I hold my breath every time I kick over an old server that it comes back again. They just formalized it.

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It’s not the standard way. It’s the standard way for documentation so Intellisense can provide information about the function. The standard way still uses C/C++ style double slash ( // ) and multiline style ( / / )

Muliline style /

I meant the slash-asterisk comment asterisk-slash, but apparetly HN saw the two asterisks as markup...

Re: Deutsche Bank makes source code publicly available for the first time

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The bank has the distinction of being mentioned in Kraftwerk’s 1983 song Computer World : ”Interpol, Deutsche Bank, FBI, Scotland Yard, Flensburg und das BKA, haben unsere Daten da.”

The rest I understand but why Flensburg?

The Federal Kraftfahrt Amt is in Flensburg. This is where the records are kept for drivers who get points.

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The bank has the distinction of being mentioned in Kraftwerk’s 1983 song Computer World : ”Interpol, Deutsche Bank, FBI, Scotland Yard, Flensburg und das BKA, haben unsere Daten da.”

That is very prescient of them! I now hold them in even higher regard.

Prescient? It was already true back then.

Re: Deutsche Bank makes source code publicly available for the first time

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Great move. I really believe in the "free software, free society" idea of the FSF. After this batch, I'm sure there will still be a lot left to open source, but it's definitely a big step! If we're fortunate, others will follow suit. Germany is a great country for stuff like this. They have a relatively high share of Linux users, OpenStreetMap usage, etc. I feel like they're very critical towards their own country an…

> Germany is a great country for stuff like this. They have a relatively high share of Linux users, OpenStreetMap usage, etc. I feel like they're very critical towards their own country and don't take things for granted (not the "we're so proud of our country" idea). This is especially also the case, because of the post-WWII history of East Germany. The Stasi managed to subdue the entire population, mainly with surve…

tbh i think that germany is lagging in digital, its a shift that if they dont take right now could cost them long term. something that event merkel commented recently.

mobile internet is very expensive, 20 eur for 5gb, there is almost no street view, blocking content on youtube. high percentage of german startups are just copying ( famous rocket internet ). that are just some examples, that are not so great starting point to become leader in digital.

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I left Deutsche a decade ago, but if I remember correctly that code was written mostly by their employees in Moscow, with specifications being driven mostly by the business users in London and New York.

I’ve never worked at Deutsche but I know several people who have and some who still do – the dev team seems fairly distributed as it usually is with the top tier banks. They definitely have devs in London, but a lot of the lower level positions are indeed outsourced if I recall correctly.

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Re: Deutsche Bank makes source code publicly available for the first time

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Sorry, if I don't share the general enthusiasm... Making it opensource mostly helps DB and malevolent people. DB can get bug fixes for free, and malevolent people can now make fake versions of Autobahn that MITM every orders that the traders make. There is no benefit whatsoever for clients...

Re: Deutsche Bank makes source code publicly available for the first time

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I went to a Deutsche Bank Hackathon last year in Berlin where they announced opening up their apis. https://developer.db.com/ They touted it as being innovative and open but in the end all Banks are required to open up when PSD2 comes into effect next year. Seeing this release, maybe they have honest intentions for being more open, but it being Deutsche i still have my doubts.

I used to walk around other countries bragging about German online banking, given that we have a standard that has been iterated upon (HBCI/FinTS) over decades and you can pretty use any online banking software with any bank.

A few years have passed since then and most germans banks are still the same. Meanwhile you get instant wire transfers in a few countries.

When I think Deutsche Bank and innovation, I think of my phone calls with Deutsche Bank about disappearing money and them telling me that I shouldn't be surprised if the online banking doesn't actually reflect my real balance and 3 day same country wire transfers. A friend of mine has a consulting company that claims that theyre trying to change their internal structures though.

I think of shitty support and paper faxes because of "security". The latter might actually be a prevalent problem in german society though.

I work in Gvt. Healthcare. They've been spending 1 year trying to define an API for activating the new healthcare smartcards. It has 3 API calls, it's not done yet, and it's SOAP only. And then the leadership has been trying to get government support to mandate by law the forced usage of their crappy APIs.

Germany is a digital dinosaur, no matter how much these old tycoons come to the bay area with their newly appointed chief of innovations for a week they won't get it, because they never had to compete on anything to get it.

User experience is a completely foreign concept to them.

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