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Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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post #44

"Worse, how many of us keep tabs open as reminders of something we want to do or read later?" Indeed I do. One of these days I'll get around to adding an extension that allows me to queue links without opening them in tabs. Anyway, I don't understand why Tab Candy is an improvement over simple window management. Since the introduction of tabs, I've grouped tabs by purpose into separate windows, and rather assumed tha…

Uh, I massively dislike working with a fat bunch of windows. How can the title of one Firefox window as tab group can be as expressive as a group of tabs you've persisted in Tab Candy with your own label? Indeed I do. One of these days I'll get around to adding an extension that allows me to queue links without opening them in tabs. If you don't know any, i like Read it Later( http://readitlaterlist.com/ ). Anything…

Among other context splitting, I make regular use of virtual desktops. So there are rarely more than one or two browser windows on one desktop, and anything beyond the primary window has a short lifespan.

Read it Later looks perfect; thanks for the tip. Last I bothered to look, I couldn't find a thing.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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post #42

"We need a way to organize browsing, to see all of our tabs at once, and focus on the task at hand. In short, we need a way to get back control of our online lives." Will power? Priorities? Reducing friction or eliminating annoyances is not always a good thing, and may not accomplish what you want. Worse, it may give you undesirable side-effects. For example, people complain about freeway traffic, how it takes too lo…

Will power? Priorities? Likewise, maybe the annoyance of managing large numbers of tabs is a good thing. It's a reminder that maybe you're getting carried away and need to adjust your focus. What does these three(will power, priorities, focus) help you with information organization? With this thing i actually can, for example, map a plan of a learning trial and resources therefor into a priotized tree structure. That…

Part of my point is that not everything is worth doing (or worth doing much), and making those things easier to do just makes it easier to do things not worth doing.

"What does these three(will power, priorities, focus) help you with information organization?"

Maybe the things being organized aren't the things you should be focusing on. Perhaps your focus should be elsewhere, your priorities different.

If not, then yes, better tools for organization are a win. I'm just glad there is friction to doing certain things that are often just not that important, like endless Web surfing.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

#54
post #11

I group my tabs in separate windows and let my window manager take care of managing them. Maybe this is good in some Chrome OS style netbook? Sure, the contextual search (or whatever it was) seemed cool but elementary tasks like organizing my tabs/windows should be simple. Soon I'll have to switch my mental mode just to get my head to this fancy tab-organize mode.

> Soon I'll have to switch my mental mode just to get my head to this fancy tab-organize mode. One nice thing about Tab Candy is that it's invisible until you choose to use it. You can use tabs and windows just like you always have, and nothing will change. Watch ten different people use web browsers, and you'll see they have very different usage styles. Tab Candy addresses some problems experienced by many but not a…

If it really is independent, please keep it an extension and don't bake it into vanilla Firefox.

It doesn't just impact bewildered users that never asked for it and devs/users of existing extensions that are now sidelined -- it completely fucks your upstream development cycle, since changes to the chrome are lumped in with and gated by rendering engine changes.

It's a fundamental mistake that y'all and many others in the industry have been making for years. Microsoft stopped bundling some of their apps with Win7 for this reason, and Google has finally stopped bundling core user apps with their most recent Android release so that users have any hope of getting current versions.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome allows you to drag a tab out of a window into a blank space to create a new window.

Yup. So does Firefox. (And Opera, for that matter... Chrome did not invent these features.)

The shipping version of Firefox when Chrome was first released absolutely did not have this feature. It was a regular pain in my ass. The ability to poof a tab out into a new window without reloading the contents was added to Firefox in the interim.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

#56
post #44

"Worse, how many of us keep tabs open as reminders of something we want to do or read later?" Indeed I do. One of these days I'll get around to adding an extension that allows me to queue links without opening them in tabs. Anyway, I don't understand why Tab Candy is an improvement over simple window management. Since the introduction of tabs, I've grouped tabs by purpose into separate windows, and rather assumed tha…

Uh, I massively dislike working with a fat bunch of windows. How can the title of one Firefox window as tab group can be as expressive as a group of tabs you've persisted in Tab Candy with your own label? Indeed I do. One of these days I'll get around to adding an extension that allows me to queue links without opening them in tabs. If you don't know any, i like Read it Later( http://readitlaterlist.com/ ). Anything…

Springpad is pretty good, has mobile clients and all

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Looks like they've re-invented the concept of "windows." Isn't there a nifty piece of software provided by the OS called a window manager that's supposed to do this sort of thing?

Most users don't have a usable window manager, though, so they decide to write one inside their pet application instead.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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I found that I hated working with lots of windows as have many others. However, I came to realize that this is because of the window manager. I switched to a window manager capable of actually managing windows, and will never go back. The particular window manager I use is called Awesome, but there are many like it. A particularly useful feature is Awesome's use of tags. Multiple tags can be assigned to windows, and multiple windows can be assigned to tags, and at any one time, you can view whichever combination of tags you want. I have a tag for work, a tag for personal, a tag for news. I also have a tag for web, a tag for communications, and a tag for production. Viewing combinations of these tags is extremely useful and an effective way of managing windows.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

#59

"We need a way to organize browsing, to see all of our tabs at once, and focus on the task at hand. In short, we need a way to get back control of our online lives." Will power? Priorities? Reducing friction or eliminating annoyances is not always a good thing, and may not accomplish what you want. Worse, it may give you undesirable side-effects. For example, people complain about freeway traffic, how it takes too lo…

Too many tabs has never been an issue for me. Can anyone actually read more than one tab at once? If you're thinking of buying a DSLR, then focus on researching cameras. Close those tabs when you're done.

Exercise restraint, guys. Tab grouping is the classic engineer's solution to a non-problem.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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I just realized that Aza Raskin is Jef Raskin's son. One of Jef's main locus of attention was the zooming user interface (ZUI). This centers around the fact that an interface doesn't really have to have borders at all, just the ability to zoom. Zoom in to get detail; zoom out to view more of the world. Tab Candy is Jef's ZUI brought to the web browser. Cool!
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