@dang I flagged this because there’s a typo: overdoes should be overdose
(My brain read it as “overlords” and I was trying to understand why I made that mistake.)
Edit: thanks
The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
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Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, this time is different -- since white people are dying, we suddenly feel sympathy. When blacks OD from crack, they were thrown into jail and treated like morally failed individuals. When whites die from heroin, we feel sympathy and want to treat them.
I’ve heard this argument many times now and I still fail to see how we’re feeling sympathy for these people. Every time this conversation is brought up I see 0 solutions and people that very low-key suggest these people have to die because coal must disappear, because outsourcing to China is good because we’re living in a global economy, because they vote Trump and they don’t share our liberal view of society and the…
Those are some... pretty strange views. Where do you see them expressed?
Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#33This opioid epidemic has made me question my position on legalization of drugs. I had believed that, in general, legalization of drugs would be a good policy -- it worked fine for marijuana where it has been tried, and I doubted that very many people who don't take hard drugs would start doing so if they were legalized. Now, I'm not so sure. It seems to be the case that some opioid addicts transition from using presc…
Why shouldn't we let them die? One in six base jumpers will die young while jumping. We don't make that illégal. I mean, everyone knows you can overdose. So that makes it a conscious choice, and we should preserve people's ability to make an informed choice to put themselves in danger.
> Why shouldn't we let them die? One in six base jumpers will die young while jumping. We don't make that illégal.
Well, a base jumper is, well, dead when the parachute fails. You maybe need someone to scrape the remains off the ground, but that's it.
Drug addictions and ODs, as well as the side effects from criminalization (prison/judicial costs, drug related crime) end up costing a boatload of money, plus a highly aggressive user of coke, meth or multiple drugs is often enough a public danger.
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#34If Russia wants to hurt the U.S., why bother with so nebulous a tool as election tampering? Why should North Korea bother with expensive nuclear weapons to harm the U.S., not that the strategies are exclusive? Just produce cheap opioids and dump them in our borders, we'll take care of the rest. Or maybe they're already doing it.
Doesn't even need to - we took care of invading Afghanistan and quadrupling the worlds supply of opium a couple decades ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanista...
Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve heard this argument many times now and I still fail to see how we’re feeling sympathy for these people. Every time this conversation is brought up I see 0 solutions and people that very low-key suggest these people have to die because coal must disappear, because outsourcing to China is good because we’re living in a global economy, because they vote Trump and they don’t share our liberal view of society and the…
Those are some... pretty strange views. Where do you see them expressed?
Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#36This opioid epidemic has made me question my position on legalization of drugs. I had believed that, in general, legalization of drugs would be a good policy -- it worked fine for marijuana where it has been tried, and I doubted that very many people who don't take hard drugs would start doing so if they were legalized. Now, I'm not so sure. It seems to be the case that some opioid addicts transition from using presc…
> On the other hand, there are tons of overdoses from prescribed opiates, which are legally obtained; So what ? Nothing is worse than the prison system. Literally, nothing. Risk of death by overdose does not justify shoveling people into the horrific US correctional system. > tens of thousands of people will die every year via ingestion of legal drugs unless some kind of intervention is made to remove their access to…
This kind of argument could be used to argue for legalization of absolutely everything.
Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> On the other hand, there are tons of overdoses from prescribed opiates, which are legally obtained; So what ? Nothing is worse than the prison system. Literally, nothing. Risk of death by overdose does not justify shoveling people into the horrific US correctional system. > tens of thousands of people will die every year via ingestion of legal drugs unless some kind of intervention is made to remove their access to…
This kind of argument could be used to argue for legalization of absolutely everything.
Not "absolutely everything", but certainly many things.
It's on you to make the case that "saving a drug user's life" is achieved by sending them to the worst place on earth.
Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#38This opioid epidemic has made me question my position on legalization of drugs. I had believed that, in general, legalization of drugs would be a good policy -- it worked fine for marijuana where it has been tried, and I doubted that very many people who don't take hard drugs would start doing so if they were legalized. Now, I'm not so sure. It seems to be the case that some opioid addicts transition from using presc…
Legalization doesn't just enable people to "do the drugs". It also lowers the barrier the government has in obtaining data about the phenomenon.
With additional data, government can be more proactive in preventing addiction in the first place.
Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#39This opioid epidemic has made me question my position on legalization of drugs. I had believed that, in general, legalization of drugs would be a good policy -- it worked fine for marijuana where it has been tried, and I doubted that very many people who don't take hard drugs would start doing so if they were legalized. Now, I'm not so sure. It seems to be the case that some opioid addicts transition from using presc…
I think there are a lot of different ways to "legalize", and the particulars of how you do it amplifies the results when it comes to hard drugs, especially highly addictive opiates. Putting aside the more libertarian approach to legalization where hard drugs are left to the market and profits are made off of their sale, there are other options. For instance, where drug use is legal, manufacture is illegal, and addict…
I agree with you but consider what capital industry has done to food: the very safest thing people get addicted to.
It has been transmuted into hyper addictive nutritionless junk and it’s marketed with all the strength of humanity’s brightest, with no regard to the legions who now suffer obesity related disability, diabetes, etc.
When that same marketing machine gets its hands on marijuana, I’m sure it’ll make the world suffer.
And if you think to use alcohol as a counter example, think twice because the USA regulates it harder than most. GB is closer to laissez faire, and their alcoholism rates’ increase resembles our obesity.
Re: The rise of drug overdoses in New Hampshire has created a backlog of autopsies
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
This kind of argument could be used to argue for legalization of absolutely everything.
Not "absolutely everything", but certainly many things. It's on you to make the case that "saving a drug user's life" is achieved by sending them to the worst place on earth.
(Which ruins their families lives)