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'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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There's the well-known anecdote that Steve Jobs didn't let his own kids use the iPad.[1] If there was a tech equivalent of "don't get high on your own supply" , that was it. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=steve+jobs+doesn%27t+let+kid...

I mean Steve Jobs tried to treat his completely curable pancreatic cancer, which was caught early, with alternative medicine and diet changes. The guy was a genius at some things, but not everything.

Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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post #30
post #13

There's the well-known anecdote that Steve Jobs didn't let his own kids use the iPad.[1] If there was a tech equivalent of "don't get high on your own supply" , that was it. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=steve+jobs+doesn%27t+let+kid...

The same Steve Jobs who thought you could cure cancer by eating carrots, right? Just because he was smart and did some things right doesn’t mean he has some secret wisdom in unrelated fields, here.

I don't think "the Apple iPad" is an "unrelated field" for Steve Jobs. It seems like you're the one bringing in unrelated fields....

Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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I agree with him that social media could be very distracting, especially in the family settings, but, I get a ton of useful information and stay up-to-date with the latest research through Twitter, Reddit and HN. Cutting those out would mean putting an iron curtain on the latest insight and recent developments, and, essentially, quitting the front line.

But at what cost? Having read "deep work" recently, I've started thinking much more about all of this, and for me, the cost mostly outweighs the benefits. By cutting back drastically on my use (phone typically lasts 3-4 days instead of 1 now), I'm getting a lot more done, in less time, feel better and am much more present than I have been in over a decade. I hadn't realised the creeping effect of it all, and I don't…

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Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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I agree with him that social media could be very distracting, especially in the family settings, but, I get a ton of useful information and stay up-to-date with the latest research through Twitter, Reddit and HN. Cutting those out would mean putting an iron curtain on the latest insight and recent developments, and, essentially, quitting the front line.

You don't need those sites. Find professors in your chosen field, click on their personal pages and there should be a list of all their PhD student's personal pages. Follow those and any related academic journals, throw in Stack Overflow/Exchange, Google Scholar, and occasional HN and you'll be far more informed than anybody wading through countless junk posts on reddit or twitter.

For example if you're a user interface designer or wearables programmer, then you'd benefit from the recent papers from these PhD students more than you'd benefit from spending hours trying to find meaningful content on reddit or twitter https://www.hcii.cmu.edu/people/phd-students

Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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I agree with him that social media could be very distracting, especially in the family settings, but, I get a ton of useful information and stay up-to-date with the latest research through Twitter, Reddit and HN. Cutting those out would mean putting an iron curtain on the latest insight and recent developments, and, essentially, quitting the front line.

That's the problem I faced as well, and I ultimately decided to quit a line of work that required being constantly connected to the latest developments. I realized I wanted to pursue a line of work with a bit more permanence and, for lack of a better word, timelessness.

You became a Fortran programer who works on mainframes?

Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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Does anyone think that Hacker News fits the bill of addictiveness? Or is HN different than Facebook/Reddit/Twitter for some reason?

Two big differences:

1) HN has less content, so it is much easier to run out of things to look at.

2) Its content is less digestible on average, so you don't get nearly as deep into "mindless info consumption" mode.

That being said, it definitely has those characteristics to an extent.

Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the problem I faced as well, and I ultimately decided to quit a line of work that required being constantly connected to the latest developments. I realized I wanted to pursue a line of work with a bit more permanence and, for lack of a better word, timelessness.

“ Email is a wonderful thing for people whose role in life is to be on top of things. But not for me; my role is to be on the bottom of things. ” — Donald Knuth ( http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/email.html )

as evanlivingston mentioned above, Knuth is in the position to cut off people from his email; trying to run a digital company without an email is kind of like trying to be a lumberjack without an axe

Re: 'Our minds can be hijacked': tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia

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post #4

Does anyone see an analogy with highly processed, sugary foods? Highly addictive, thought to be miracles of convenience, but ultimately detrimental when consumed in excess, and now we are starting to realise that and demand better. I wonder if society will go through the same rejection phase with attention-seeking media consumption. Or maybe those who grow up with it will be better able to control themselves.

Yes. I’ve been running with this model too.

I also think about distractions (pop ups, bullshit social media, etc) as interrupts that disrupt program execution. The mindfulness movement has organic parallels.

Is mainstream news nourishing to my brain?

The biggest story of the week (year?) has no leakers and limited facts. The media have made virtually no progress on explaining who this person was in Las Vegas.

We do have 12 sources that prove some DC douche called another douche a moron.

I am not letting the media run code on my cpu anymore. Their code doesn’t nourish.

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