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You're missing out. 3D Touch is pretty powerful and provides access to more than "Useless Options" now.
It still bugs me as very undiscoverable. I don’t want to press things I don’t intend to toggle just to see whats underneath them. Maybe I’ll get used to it but right now I’m old man grumpy.
> In an attempt to keep you connected to Apple devices and services, iOS 11 compromises users' security. No. It is in an attempt to resolve the real loss of money experienced by everyday users who turn off WiFi when it’s flakey and then forget to turn it back on, costing them cash on their cellular data plan. (And the very real frustration when things don’t work they expect to work, and they don’t know why.) Meanwhil…
This change would be absolutely fine to me if it were communicated to the user in any way whatsoever . The fact that I can upgrade and have no idea the behaviour unless I happen to read an EFF blogpost in the few hours it appears on HN isn't acceptable. Note how they even use privacy as one of the main (at least, in my opinion) selling point for Apple devices[0] ("Every Apple product is designed from the ground up to…
And since a state between on and off is not intuitive and cannot be imagined out of the blue by end users, the onus is on the implementing party to leave no room for confusion. The current vagueness with the control has no logical explanation.
Like removing the headphone jack to underhandedly force people into Bluetooth headphones(with Apple conveniently owning Beats, who has the biggest market share of aforementioned headphones) and insultingly excusing it with "innovation" and non-reasons. Yet people will crawl out of the woodwork to arbitrarily defend their phone brand, which is apparently really important for their identity.
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Nonsense. Literally every single smartphone before iOS 11 had a simple toggle switch for wifi on/off. This is now the expected behavior, this is what people expect to happen. They are conditioned by now, to switch off wifi by pressing the wifi button, and to have to turn it back on manually. If Apple wants to change this paradigm, they have to be very very careful about it. And they obviously haven't been.
Apple removed the Home button after 10 years in the iPhone X and replaced it with a little bar drawn in software at the bottom of the phone. Just like users will learn new behaviors to exit apps, they will learn that the control center behaves in a new way. Nobody cares about this other than technical people, who really only care because they perceive it to be Apple Arrogance. Nearly 40% of the installed base is on i…
Deliberately changing how a well known function works is stupid, especially the part about it not being immediately obvious that it now works differently from literally every other phone out there.
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Not on my Android phone, a Motorola Moto X Play. Wifi is by far the largest battery hog.
lol man. thats because it is used the most. in order to determine which uses more energy you would need to run a series of controlled tests where you transfer specific amounts of data over time with one radio or the other.
I have a generous data plan, so I don't need to use wifi to preserve it.
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"At this point I’m not sure there’s a need for normal users to actually turn off Wi-Fi" To preserve battery. I don't know about iPhones, but on my Android phone, Wi-Fi is certainly the largest battery hog, if I leave Wi-Fi location scanning on.
I would LOVE to see someone run benchmarks about how much battery WiFi and BT use on modern iPhones (when disconnected). I would be amazed if the difference was more than negligable.
I get around 1.5 days normally, less than a day if I use wifi and BT.
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> At this point I’m not sure there’s a need for normal users to actually turn off Wi-Fi. Define 'normal'. After I educated my (retired, nontechnical) mother about wifi and bluetooth tracking, she started turning them off when she left the house. I think the folks who think this is just peachy are in their own bubble. 'Normal' (by my working definition) people do care about this stuff if they understand it. Thankfully…
Apple must have statistics about this (from people who opt in to it like me). If they made this change I imagine the number of people who actually toggle the radios on and off a lot (manually, not airplane mode) must be very small. I’m sure th know how many people have written them about the ‘I ran up my cellular bill and it’s your fault’ thing too. I know I’ve heard that from people. It’s a change from what it’s bee…
Folks who worry about, say, wifi and bluetooth walk-buy surveillance are going to be much more likely to opt-out of just about anything they can, including usage instrumentation. So of course they'll be underrepresented in statistics generated from that data.
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> I agree it's not a huge security vulnerability Until the next Broadcom WiFi radio vulnerability.
If that's our threat model then we're already hosed. It's not like "turn off your wireless" is a solution to vulnerabilities like this outside of security circles.
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"At this point I’m not sure there’s a need for normal users to actually turn off Wi-Fi" To preserve battery. I don't know about iPhones, but on my Android phone, Wi-Fi is certainly the largest battery hog, if I leave Wi-Fi location scanning on.
That's strange. I have used Nexus phones since the first one that came out and I have never experienced any significant battery drain from either wifi or bluetooth. First was always screen, second Android system. Just checked again to make sure. Wifi 0%, Bluetooth 0%