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Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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> Jobs: Computers are actually pretty simple. We’re sitting here on a bench in this café [for this part of the Interview]. Let’s assume that you understood only the most rudimentary of directions and you asked how to find the rest room. I would have to describe it to you in very specific and precise instructions. I might say, “Scoot sideways two meters off the bench. Stand erect. Lift left foot. Bend left knee until…

As much as I hate Steve Jobs, I like too like this explanation very much.

Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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Without the influence of LSD I don't think you would have gotten the Mac. You would have gotten Guis inspired by Xerox park but the whole vision of the computer as a work of art and a device to make art that was tied into Jobs inspirations from his psychedelic experiences.

Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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Microsoft was utilizing the Internet for business by the mid 1980s, they weren't oblivious to it. Gates viewed there as being two approaches that might win, one he preferred to call the Information Superhighway (basically closed platforms over high-speed cable), and the other being the Internet. He thought the Internet would lose because of how slow it was in the early days, and it was very mediocre at video and inte…

I remember when the tcp stack for Windows 3x was a third party application. https://thanksfortrumpetwinsock.com/

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Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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> Jobs: Computers are actually pretty simple. We’re sitting here on a bench in this café [for this part of the Interview]. Let’s assume that you understood only the most rudimentary of directions and you asked how to find the rest room. I would have to describe it to you in very specific and precise instructions. I might say, “Scoot sideways two meters off the bench. Stand erect. Lift left foot. Bend left knee until…

I wonder if Steve saw this lecture by Richard Feynman, where Feynman uses a similar metaphor to explain how computers work.

link?

Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

#105

> Jobs: Computers are actually pretty simple. We’re sitting here on a bench in this café [for this part of the Interview]. Let’s assume that you understood only the most rudimentary of directions and you asked how to find the rest room. I would have to describe it to you in very specific and precise instructions. I might say, “Scoot sideways two meters off the bench. Stand erect. Lift left foot. Bend left knee until…

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Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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post #104

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I wonder if Steve saw this lecture by Richard Feynman, where Feynman uses a similar metaphor to explain how computers work.

link?

Most likely this one: https://youtu.be/EKWGGDXe5MA

Check out Feynman's very cool "Thinking Machines" t-shirt. He was working with Danny Hillis at the time.

Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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> [the information] revolution will dwarf the petrochemical revolution. I remember people thinking this was a crazy idea, but his forecast was largely correct: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?source=frontpage-immediat...

The petrochemical revolution is more than the market cap of an oil company. The petrochemical revolution guides the way we've built our cities for the past 100+ years, how we ship our goods and how we travel the world. The entire transport system - cars, trucks, ships, planes - almost all petrochemical. And the negative side too. Vast fields of tarmac (petrochemical) parking lots (petrochemical) for strip malls. Urba…

> The petrochemical revolution guides the way we've

conducted foreign policy should have received top billing. Unless you were intentionally excluding items not in both sets.

Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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1984, pre-internet! Or at least pre WWW and big internet >Playboy: Those are arguments for computers in business and in schools, but what about the home? ... This will change: Computers will be essential in most homes. Playboy: What will change? Jobs: The most compelling reason for most people to buy a computer for the home will be to link it into a nationwide communications network. We’re just in the beginning stage…

Interesting. This is only 5 years after Jobs’ visit to Xerox PARC, where he would later say he “missed [their developments in] networking” because he was so fascinated by their GUI work.

His miss on networking wasn't just about not understanding ethernet. Remember, this interview predates the assumption that the Internet would win. For a long time that wasn't really clear, and there were many players in walled-garden networks. This was a moment in time when people connected to computer networks over phone lines via modems, and whoever controlled the network most people dialed in to was the biggest player in networked computers. At that time, the biggest was CompuServe.

In 1985, Apple started a service called AppleLink that connected apple dealers, developers, and employees. You'd connect through a Mac client app and a dial-up modem. I believe it was built on top of some GE service. They later had Steve Case build "AppleLink Personal Edition" -- more user friendly and with more user content -- which they decided not to ship. Case retained the rights and eventually released it as "America Online" which became the most famous walled garden network. (And much later, Apple released a re-branded AOL as "eWorld". Which means Apple failed multiple times at this connected-netowrk business. No wonder Jobs was all-in on the Internet by the time he announced NeXT.)

Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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It's clear you are arguing for the sake of arguing and this community is worse for it.

That's an unfair assumption to make. Calling me hand-wavey doesn't add anything to the community either.

I think @marktangotango is trolling you. Best to ignore.

Re: Playboy Interview: Steve Jobs (1985)

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Jobs wasn't Woz level, but he was no fool either.

I wasn't aware that people doubted the intelligence or acumen of Steve Jobs.

It's hard to be sure. As I said, he has no woz proof of work, at best they made blue bloxes and he was hired at Atari (or HP can't recall) but left early.

Now his explanation says a lot about is inner thinking.

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