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Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by c0nfused »

rebelde wrote: post #136
londons_explore wrote: post #122

As a former insider, I can tell you likely pre-story which might cast a different light on this: * Google employee comes up with an idea. * They go and research the idea to check if there are any already existing companies which do it. * If any are found, they meet and decide if they should buy the company, reinvent the idea, or that it isn't relevant. * If, after investigation it is determined the company's tech isn…

This is off-topic, but "no php"?

PHP has historically sucked.

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/128/PHP-PHP.html?vendor_id...

I have gotten out of the consulting world a bit, but for a while a php codebase meant I would double my estimated time on any quote I sent out. There is terrible php out there and most of it is vulnerable to every one of the OWASP top 10.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by philipov »

drfuchs wrote: post #129
ZoFreX wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with a reputation as huge and important as Google's Not trolling: What reputation? Among non-techies, their reputation is one of creepy and spying. Among techies, it's that company that keeps killing loved products. Among developers, it's one of terrible support and awful job interviews. Common to everyone is they are impossible to get hold of, a faceless and heartless machine that makes decisions you can't argue w…

You're living in a bubble if you think Google has a bad reputation; in fact, they're the sixth-most admired company in the world: http://fortune.com/worlds-most-admired-companies/list

Admired by whom? Fortune magazine editors? Those aren't one of the relevant categories.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by rasz »

londons_explore wrote: post #122

As a former insider, I can tell you likely pre-story which might cast a different light on this: * Google employee comes up with an idea. * They go and research the idea to check if there are any already existing companies which do it. * If any are found, they meet and decide if they should buy the company, reinvent the idea, or that it isn't relevant. * If, after investigation it is determined the company's tech isn…

Like project Loon?, or ANS? Copying something verbatim and claiming it yours sure doesnt sound clean room to me.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by pfarnsworth »

paul7986 wrote: post #23

I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

You should join the lawsuit or at least talk with their lawyers, I'm sure they would be very interested in talking with you.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by drfuchs »

philipov wrote: post #142
drfuchs wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're living in a bubble if you think Google has a bad reputation; in fact, they're the sixth-most admired company in the world: http://fortune.com/worlds-most-admired-companies/list

Admired by whom? Fortune magazine editors? Those aren't one of the relevant categories.

Well, it wasn't the opinion of the editors, but of business leaders; as for the general public, Google still ranks very high: https://www.thebalance.com/retail-brands-with-the-best-reput... and https://www.forbes.com/sites/karstenstrauss/2017/02/28/the-w...

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by viridian »

drfuchs wrote: post #129
ZoFreX wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with a reputation as huge and important as Google's Not trolling: What reputation? Among non-techies, their reputation is one of creepy and spying. Among techies, it's that company that keeps killing loved products. Among developers, it's one of terrible support and awful job interviews. Common to everyone is they are impossible to get hold of, a faceless and heartless machine that makes decisions you can't argue w…

You're living in a bubble if you think Google has a bad reputation; in fact, they're the sixth-most admired company in the world: http://fortune.com/worlds-most-admired-companies/list

Keep in mind that the list linked is specifically for investors, with criteria like "Long-term investment value" and "Ability to attract and retain talented people". Also the data collection was complete by January, which makes it almost a year old at this point.

Google has had four lawsuits which look bad for them make Hacker news or the reddit front page in the last year, which I can't imagine is good for their PR. Anecdotally, I also see a lot of people in tech where I work growing a disdain for them, including myself. I went so far as to buy a new phone to put LineageOS on a few weeks ago because I don't like the direction the company is heading.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by philipov »

drfuchs wrote: post #146
philipov wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Admired by whom? Fortune magazine editors? Those aren't one of the relevant categories.

Well, it wasn't the opinion of the editors, but of business leaders; as for the general public, Google still ranks very high: https://www.thebalance.com/retail-brands-with-the-best-reput... and https://www.forbes.com/sites/karstenstrauss/2017/02/28/the-w...

   2015 - #10
   2014 - #14
   2013 - #4
   2012 - #2
   2011 - #1
This looks like a collapsing reputation to me. Perhaps it hasn't fully collapsed yet, but you can see how big a hit it took recently.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by banku_brougham »

rebelde wrote: post #136
londons_explore wrote: post #122

As a former insider, I can tell you likely pre-story which might cast a different light on this: * Google employee comes up with an idea. * They go and research the idea to check if there are any already existing companies which do it. * If any are found, they meet and decide if they should buy the company, reinvent the idea, or that it isn't relevant. * If, after investigation it is determined the company's tech isn…

This is off-topic, but "no php"?

There is a large body of php hating literature. Here's an example: https://eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
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