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Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by d0100 »

londons_explore wrote: post #122

As a former insider, I can tell you likely pre-story which might cast a different light on this: * Google employee comes up with an idea. * They go and research the idea to check if there are any already existing companies which do it. * If any are found, they meet and decide if they should buy the company, reinvent the idea, or that it isn't relevant. * If, after investigation it is determined the company's tech isn…

> "clean room"

The room can be clean, but what about everything else? There's more to software than the actual written code.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by johansch »

jaclaz wrote: post #130
johansch wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Thanks for the perspective, that was interesting.) Btw, modular/semi-modular home construction is a pretty big thing here in Sweden. Seems like most standalone homes are built that way nowadays. I had earlier assumed it was similar elsewhere, but it seems like it isn't dominant in most other places. I guess our horrible climate makes it nicer/more profitable to build modules in a climate-controlled factory than on a…

>I guess our horrible climate makes it nicer/more profitable to build modules in a climate-controlled factory than on a wintery/coldish/raining building site. Contrast that to e.g. California - decent climate all year around. I'm also guessing that our high taxes on work and a lack of a low-paid builder workforce also contributes to making automation of housing module manufacturing worthwhile. Sure, that's part of th…

Yeah, sure, I got the difference between these prefab home modules vs prefab parts for very large buildings. I don't really expect these things to translate into the building of 20+ story office/apartment skyscrapers. Totally different domains.

I think that last paragraph (about specialization vs being a local jack of all trades) has a loth of truth to it.

Having lived in the Swedish outback.. without these modular homes made in factories it's all about your personal connections to local people who can do building work. There is no other way of making sure that your house gets built correctly. This obviously doesn't make for a very dynamic marketplace. People get screwed constantly. (So that's a plus for prefab factories - it's a lot easier to screen their quality than for individual contractors - out of sheer volume of customers.)

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by throw2016 »

saimiam wrote: post #34
paul7986 wrote: post #23

I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

> Things need to change!!! How should things change? I genuinely feel for you so keep the rest of what I'm going to say at arms distance. The way I see it, you are essentially asking people not to learn from each other. Software is not basic science where, if you discover a process or a particle, you are putting into words something outside the human brain. Software (mathematical formulations aside) describes how the…

Completely unrelated to the issue at hand. What is the connection you are implying?

There is a context to intellectual property. If you sign an NDA to get some information and then use it to launch a new product this argument will not hold to any judge in your defense?

There is also a huge difference between 2 individuals exchanging ideas and a large corporate specifically seeking you out for your idea to steal it. It's difficult to see how anyone can conflate the two.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by rebelde »

londons_explore wrote: post #122

As a former insider, I can tell you likely pre-story which might cast a different light on this: * Google employee comes up with an idea. * They go and research the idea to check if there are any already existing companies which do it. * If any are found, they meet and decide if they should buy the company, reinvent the idea, or that it isn't relevant. * If, after investigation it is determined the company's tech isn…

This is off-topic, but "no php"?

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by bagacrap »

kuschku wrote: post #66
noncoml wrote: post #17

The article presents only one side of the story. I have never heard of Google being accused of something similar in the past. Does anyone have any pointers to similar incidents?

It also presents Google’s answer, which was > that Attia gave Google rights to his technology “without a condition of later payment.” They admit they did it, but claim they were in the right to do it.

So it devotes one article to one side, and six words (a quote of a quote) to the other side. That doesn't seem very even handed. News outlets profit when people get outraged; why would you trust this one to be disinterested?

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by drtillberg »

Teever wrote: post #85

Man it would be so terrifying going up against Google in court. How do you do research? How do you communicate with your lawyer? They know everything about what you do, when you do it, and who you do it with.

Google is embedded in most web services, including this site (as capcha via cloudflare). But, you eventually would learn that non-google services that are mostly as good (except maps), and you would use no-script.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by eecks »

londons_explore wrote: post #122

As a former insider, I can tell you likely pre-story which might cast a different light on this: * Google employee comes up with an idea. * They go and research the idea to check if there are any already existing companies which do it. * If any are found, they meet and decide if they should buy the company, reinvent the idea, or that it isn't relevant. * If, after investigation it is determined the company's tech isn…

Can you tell us more about the strict tech requirements?

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by wizu »

rebelde wrote: post #136
londons_explore wrote: post #122

As a former insider, I can tell you likely pre-story which might cast a different light on this: * Google employee comes up with an idea. * They go and research the idea to check if there are any already existing companies which do it. * If any are found, they meet and decide if they should buy the company, reinvent the idea, or that it isn't relevant. * If, after investigation it is determined the company's tech isn…

This is off-topic, but "no php"?

Because PHP is objectively a worse tool for its designed purpose than other alternatives.
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