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1099 will end the world in 2012

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Re: 1099 will end the world in 2012

#123
I know this is a really alarming issue, but there's no way this will ever happen. Business lobbies are far too powerful to allow something like this to slip by without a serious fight, and we've got 2 years.

Solution: write your congress person. Sign petitions etc and make a whole lot of stinkin noise..

But I'm sure every Fortune 500 corp will be making even more noise about this than small business owners. I can't imagine Walmart likes this anymore than Joe's Hardware

Re: 1099 will end the world in 2012

#124

The underground economy will explode. Working under the table will become much more prevalent.

maybe? the problem is that if I pay you under the table, I'm paying you out of /post tax/ money. this is to say, paying people under the table costs me about 50% more than reporting it. I don't think 1099s jack up the cost /that/ much.

Re: 1099 will end the world in 2012

#125
I think that we feel a loss of control over our common politic and that is making even the most rational of us feel like we have to yell and curse to have our disagreements registered, even in a quiet room.

Re: 1099 will end the world in 2012

#127
post #35

It's almost like the government is trying to get its populace to silently replace it.

With what?

I don't have a good "end goal" answer for that right now. I do think that the technology that has popped up over the last few decades allows for means of organization and collaboration for providing life necessities that were not available for the vast majority of human history.

If I'm being idealistic, I think that a good bit of the historically useful functions of government ( on a more abstract level, historically useful functions of centralized authority )is made quite outdated by the availability of global communications and exchange to the "common man". It's a can of worms of a topic, and I don't really have the time to get into it right now, so I'll leave it at that.

If I'm being extremely idealistic, I think we should be in a state of post-scarcity in terms of shelter and food, and I think that the internet is a large part of the way that humanity will get to that point if it ever does. In the same vein, I lean towards thinking that getting to that state will become rather necessary for the continued growth and survival of our species, if we're going to continue to grow and survive.

But yeah, can o' worms.

Re: 1099 will end the world in 2012

#128
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Dont pull that Patriot crap. Probably all the Fortune 1000, particularly the drug companies, are flowing revenue through tax havens to lower taxes. There was an article in the past couple of months about it, here I think. Most small companies cant do it, but HN style companies can. Push fulfillment to Ireland, development anywhere. Let Ireland charge through the noose, and let the euros pile up in Switzerland.

"Dont pull that Patriot crap. Probably all the Fortune 1000, particularly the drug companies, are flowing revenue through tax havens to lower taxes. There was an article in the past couple of months about it, here I think." If you open a company in another country, tax collection is under the jurisdiction of that country, not the US. I'm also not advocating no taxes, I just wish the Obama administration would think a…

That's odd. If I, as an individual, work with a work visa in another country, while living and paying for myself in that other country, I am still subject to US taxes on that income.

IIRC, most other "western" countries don't do that, but I could be wrong.

Re: 1099 will end the world in 2012

#129
post #110

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Of course it shouldn't have been implemented. If they were going to actually try to implement national health care it should be done as constitutional amendment.

If the Air Force wasn't a big enough deal to require an amendment, neither is health care.

Except that defending the nation is all over the constitution, whereas giving people health care for free isn't anywhere. Specifically in the preamble, when referring to the "common defense" the framers used the terminology "provide"; when referring to the "general welfare" the term promote was used instead. Air Forces didn't exist then, but health care certainly did.

Re: 1099 will end the world in 2012

#130
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it shouldn't have been implemented. If they were going to actually try to implement national health care it should be done as constitutional amendment.

If the Air Force wasn't a big enough deal to require an amendment, neither is health care.

Article 1, Section 8: The Congress shall have Power To [...] raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

Are you seriously going to argue that "Armies" doesn't include the Air Force?

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